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Offline iarwain

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Re: Record of Futility
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2017, 10:55:18 AM »
A couple of super bowl wins in the next few years would really re-define the tenure of MM, TT, and Aaron Rodgers.
No doubt about that.  Back in the 70s and 80s, when the Packers were probably the worst team in the league during that stretch, they had won those first two Super Bowls, but it seemed like that was back in a different age.  I didn't think they would ever win another one.  Then the '96 Packers won one, although it really felt like that team should have gotten at least two. 

But then 2010, and suddenly the team had four Super Bowl wins, and that made a huge difference.  Four Super Bowl wins doesn't sound bad at all, it was only behind the Steelers, Cowboys, and 49ers.  Tied with the Giants, and (at the time) ahead of the Patriots.  Four Super Bowl wins was quite respectable.  Yeah, if they can get one, maybe even two more wins with Rodgers and McCarthy (maybe TT), that would totally redefine things with regard to this team and those careers.

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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2017, 11:41:27 AM »
  From my perspective, it's most frustrating that they haven't been able to solve their defensive problems.  ...  I find that more frustrating than not having more Super Bowl wins.

I agree with this.  The defensive struggles, no matter what one attributes them to, have been very frustrating.

I keep hoping that Ted can catch lightning in a bottle, so to speak, and he acquires the personnel to have a top 3 defense again.  A couple of super bowl wins in the next few years would really re-define the tenure of MM, TT, and Aaron Rodgers.

With our offense do we really need a top 3 defense to win it all?  All we might need is an average defense.

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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2017, 01:01:02 PM »
With our offense do we really need a top 3 defense to win it all?  All we might need is an average defense.
People say that, but few average defenses have won Super Bowls.
Regardless, you wouldn't think that putting together an average defense would be that big of a feat. 

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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2017, 02:28:10 PM »
With our offense do we really need a top 3 defense to win it all?  All we might need is an average defense.
People say that, but few average defenses have won Super Bowls.
Regardless, you wouldn't think that putting together an average defense would be that big of a feat.

The reason I say all we might need is an average defense is we got into the NFCC game with that mess of defense just last season. 

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Re: Record of Futility
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2017, 10:24:00 PM »
Lets not get enthralled with ourselves.  The Packers play in a division of doormats.  How many contenders has it  produced  in the last 20 years?  The Randy Moss-Cris Carter era Vikings?  We beat the doormats and get smoked by playoff teams.  We are good enough to win our division annually, then reality sets in for the playoffs.
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« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2017, 08:21:18 AM »
Lets not get enthralled with ourselves.  The Packers play in a division of doormats. How many contenders has it  produced  in the last 20 years?  The Randy Moss-Cris Carter era Vikings?  We beat the doormats and get smoked by playoff teams.  We are good enough to win our division annually, then reality sets in for the playoffs.

So does NE.  The only difference is they won more SBs than us.  They lost a couple of them too.

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« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2017, 09:17:34 AM »
Lets not get enthralled with ourselves.  The Packers play in a division of doormats. How many contenders has it  produced  in the last 20 years?  The Randy Moss-Cris Carter era Vikings?  We beat the doormats and get smoked by playoff teams.  We are good enough to win our division annually, then reality sets in for the playoffs.

So does NE.  The only difference is they won more SBs than us.  They lost a couple of them too.

Glad you mentioned this. I was thinking of making a similar reference in the discussion about ATL's 2017 prospects. ATL plays the NFC North and AFC Least as well as their own Division: NFC South.

The AFC Least is populated by three organizations that cant get out of their own way and figure how to give NE a run for the money. Kudos to NE for their successes - but it would be nice if somebody proved semi-capable to challenge them instead of filling their schedule with W's.

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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2017, 01:23:19 AM »
The Patriots have an easy road of it in their division, but they've made the most of their opportunities.  The Belichick/Brady version has five rings, and they've made it to the Super Bowl two other times.  It's not like they're getting into the playoffs and getting their butts handed to them.  They haven't won every game, but during this stretch of time, no other team has matched their success.

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Re: Record of Futility
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2017, 04:27:48 AM »
Hey, at least we're not the Cleveland Browns!