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Montgomery and Cobb tearing it up in Yards After Catch
« on: September 20, 2017, 08:57:27 AM »
Ty leads the NFL in yards after the catch with 132. Cobb ranks 5th with 101 yards after the catch. Randall would rank 2nd (131) without the Bulls*** offensive pass interference penalty right before the half Sunday night in Atlanta.
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Re: Montgomery and Cobb tearing it up in Yards After Catch
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2017, 09:07:28 AM »
Montgomery really looks good, particularly in that aspect of the game.  As always, two games of stats are kinda small sample, so we'll see. 

But I love the short throws to Montgomery, then let him YAC from there.  Often lots more working room for him then on the center plunges.  And as a fan, I just think those are really fun to watch develop and play out. 

Nothing stays the same, so much could change against different defensive matchups, and/or if the tackles come back effective.  Through the first two matchups and with the tackle situation, not many completions >10 yards in the air.  Good YAC is essential if you aren't completing downfield in the air. 

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Re: Montgomery and Cobb tearing it up in Yards After Catch
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2017, 12:17:28 PM »


Nothing stays the same, so much could change against different defensive matchups, and/or if the tackles come back effective.  Through the first two matchups and with the tackle situation, not many completions >10 yards in the air.  Good YAC is essential if you aren't completing downfield in the air.

Yes, but Montgomery is also injury prone and is leading the RBs in plays from scrimmage.  Great while hes productive, but imagine our RB situation if Montgomery goes down?   Hes got a pretty intense workload.  I'd like to them scale back Montgomery a least a little.  He'll be nothing in December at the pace hes going, if he makes it that far.  Williams and Jones need to get some more carries just to help, and it will get them some needed experience.         

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Re: Montgomery and Cobb tearing it up in Yards After Catch
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2017, 12:23:27 PM »
Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Finley use to consider it unacceptable not to pick up YAC and pushed each other hard in this important statistical category.

Monty and Cobb are off to great starts, I would like to see Adams (currently 22nd with 63) , Jordy, Geronimo, Bennett and others pick up the pace here as well.
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Re: Montgomery and Cobb tearing it up in Yards After Catch
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2017, 12:33:44 PM »


Nothing stays the same, so much could change against different defensive matchups, and/or if the tackles come back effective.  Through the first two matchups and with the tackle situation, not many completions >10 yards in the air.  Good YAC is essential if you aren't completing downfield in the air.

Yes, but Montgomery is also injury prone and is leading the RBs in plays from scrimmage.  Great while hes productive, but imagine our RB situation if Montgomery goes down?   Hes got a pretty intense workload.  I'd like to them scale back Montgomery a least a little.  He'll be nothing in December at the pace hes going, if he makes it that far.  Williams and Jones need to get some more carries just to help, and it will get them some needed experience.         

IMO its a legit concern.  Monty is a guy who's had injury concerns in his career.  He's also a guy who'd never touched the ball 20 times in a game in either college or the NF heading into this year.  Right now he's leading the NFL in snaps at his position and averaging 20 touches a game.  Hopefully he doesn't break down because Jamal Williams hasn't looked like he's a NFL caliber RB. 

Cobb has looked good thus far but again he's battling injuries.  He really needs to stay healthy.
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Re: Montgomery and Cobb tearing it up in Yards After Catch
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2017, 12:59:51 PM »


Nothing stays the same, so much could change against different defensive matchups, and/or if the tackles come back effective.  Through the first two matchups and with the tackle situation, not many completions >10 yards in the air.  Good YAC is essential if you aren't completing downfield in the air.

Yes, but Montgomery is also injury prone and is leading the RBs in plays from scrimmage.  Great while hes productive, but imagine our RB situation if Montgomery goes down?   Hes got a pretty intense workload.  I'd like to them scale back Montgomery a least a little.  He'll be nothing in December at the pace hes going, if he makes it that far.  Williams and Jones need to get some more carries just to help, and it will get them some needed experience.         

IMO its a legit concern.  Monty is a guy who's had injury concerns in his career.  He's also a guy who'd never touched the ball 20 times in a game in either college or the NF heading into this year.  Right now he's leading the NFL in snaps at his position and averaging 20 touches a game.  Hopefully he doesn't break down because Jamal Williams hasn't looked like he's a NFL caliber RB. 

Cobb has looked good thus far but again he's battling injuries.  He really needs to stay healthy.

Based on what?  Over his 4 carries hes averaging a higher ypc than Montgomery.  Sample size is way way way to small to say hes not an NFL caliber back.

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Re: Montgomery and Cobb tearing it up in Yards After Catch
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2017, 02:14:31 PM »
Good point Exit!

J. Williams has 17 snaps resulting in 4 rushed for 15 yards (2 of them resulting in 1st downs) 3.8 Ave. 1 reception for 5 yards.

How has he looked overmatched? Or like less than nfl-caliber?
« Last Edit: September 20, 2017, 02:19:25 PM by B »
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Re: Montgomery and Cobb tearing it up in Yards After Catch
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2017, 02:32:50 PM »


Nothing stays the same, so much could change against different defensive matchups, and/or if the tackles come back effective.  Through the first two matchups and with the tackle situation, not many completions >10 yards in the air.  Good YAC is essential if you aren't completing downfield in the air.

Yes, but Montgomery is also injury prone and is leading the RBs in plays from scrimmage.  Great while hes productive, but imagine our RB situation if Montgomery goes down?   Hes got a pretty intense workload.  I'd like to them scale back Montgomery a least a little.  He'll be nothing in December at the pace hes going, if he makes it that far.  Williams and Jones need to get some more carries just to help, and it will get them some needed experience.         

IMO its a legit concern.  Monty is a guy who's had injury concerns in his career.  He's also a guy who'd never touched the ball 20 times in a game in either college or the NF heading into this year.  Right now he's leading the NFL in snaps at his position and averaging 20 touches a game.  Hopefully he doesn't break down because Jamal Williams hasn't looked like he's a NFL caliber RB. 

Cobb has looked good thus far but again he's battling injuries.  He really needs to stay healthy.

Based on what?  Over his 4 carries hes averaging a higher ypc than Montgomery.  Sample size is way way way to small to say hes not an NFL caliber back.

Preseason (where he was less than a 3 YPC RB), Training camp and regular season.  I think he's looked terribly slow, unathletic and very underwhelming.  He's also missed multiple running lanes.  IMO Williams as the back up is a reason that Monty's usage rate is at such a high level (more snaps than any RB in the NFL). 

Hopefully he doesn't break down as he's got an injury history and hasn't seen these sort of touches since high school. 


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Re: Montgomery and Cobb tearing it up in Yards After Catch
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2017, 02:51:20 PM »
McCarthy says "I'm definitely aware of" Ty Montgomery's snap count, but adds it's only Week 2. Expects it to even out as season progresses.

MM has always managed his RB's and their carries well. He won't over work Montgomery.

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Re: Montgomery and Cobb tearing it up in Yards After Catch
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2017, 07:16:00 AM »
Exactly,. When you add that these were two important right out of the gate, combined with the relatively low number of touches considering how many snaps Montgomery has been on the field for, I think the worry is a little overdone - especially given that both McCarthy and Bennett have commented on it
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