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Title: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: ricky on December 16, 2013, 07:29:18 AM
Back home with another chance to make next week's game even more meaningful. Two well run, respectable and storied franchises. Could this be the game where Rodgers and Cobb make triumphant returns? Stay tuned. And, as always- never give up.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 16, 2013, 10:10:52 AM


Agreed - never give up!

:)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: LaSeeno on December 16, 2013, 12:10:08 PM
I will be there!  This game didn't look like it had meaning yesterday morning but now it's a full on fight for your playoff life for both squads.  It's going to be electric at Lambeau!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Beagle on December 16, 2013, 02:22:12 PM
Packers 17
Steelers 16

Packers defense wins the day!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Geoff on December 16, 2013, 03:31:53 PM
Not sure if any other teams did this, but the Steelers had removed Eddie Lacy from their draft board in the 2013 draft.  I'm sure Lacy can't wait to show the Steelers what they passed on.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Pugger on December 16, 2013, 03:42:12 PM
Not sure if any other teams did this, but the Steelers had removed Eddie Lacy from their draft board in the 2013 draft.  I'm sure Lacy can't wait to show the Steelers what they passed on.

I love the fact Eddie is making several teams sorry they passed on him last spring.   ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: GBRoCk2 on December 16, 2013, 03:55:56 PM
I will be there!  This game didn't look like it had meaning yesterday morning but now it's a full on fight for your playoff life for both squads.  It's going to be electric at Lambeau!
Pittsburgh cannot make the playoffs, they have already been eliminated.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 16, 2013, 04:39:27 PM
I will be there!  This game didn't look like it had meaning yesterday morning but now it's a full on fight for your playoff life for both squads.  It's going to be electric at Lambeau!
Pittsburgh cannot make the playoffs, they have already been eliminated.

Not quite. If Pittsburgh, Miami and Baltimore all finish at 8-8, Pittsburgh wins the overall tiebreaker (I believe).
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: ricky on December 16, 2013, 07:56:29 PM
I will be there!  This game didn't look like it had meaning yesterday morning but now it's a full on fight for your playoff life for both squads.  It's going to be electric at Lambeau!
Pittsburgh cannot make the playoffs, they have already been eliminated.

Not quite. If Pittsburgh, Miami and Baltimore all finish at 8-8, Pittsburgh wins the overall tiebreaker (I believe).

No offense to anyone, but I could care less if the Steelers make the playoffs or not. Its whether the Packers can win out the rest of the season that concerns me. And as far as Lacy is concerned, he's turning out to be a real find. Kind of like Rodgers was back in '08, when Alex Smith went #1, and AR was repeatedly shown waiting for hours to be picked. He could turn out to be the second coming of Ahman Green- or, maybe, Jim Taylor. And that is the highest praise I can confer on a Packers RB.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: davemobes32 on December 16, 2013, 10:40:58 PM
The Schwartz is strong with the Lions. We now control our own destiny.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Saucyjak on December 16, 2013, 10:41:05 PM
The pieces are in place.....2 victories and a home playoff game!!!!!!!!....anything is possible
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: ricky on December 16, 2013, 10:43:34 PM
NEVER GIVE UP!!!! thumbsup) thumbsup) thumbsup) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: R MaN on December 16, 2013, 11:14:49 PM
Pitt game takes on greater importance now.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 17, 2013, 07:09:45 AM
Sure hope Rodgers gets cleared Wednesday to play. This is not the same Steelers team we thought we were going to face 4 weeks ago. They have improved but a return of Cobb and Rodgers would be too many weapons for them to handle.

BTW, I'm rooting for Chicago this weekend. If they beat Philly and we win out we're the #3. Meaning we'd play the loser of the Carolina vs. New Orleans game this weekend and not San Fran. Then San Fran would go to Seattle and we'd to go the winner of the South.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Half Empty on December 17, 2013, 07:27:08 AM
I will be there!  This game didn't look like it had meaning yesterday morning but now it's a full on fight for your playoff life for both squads.  It's going to be electric at Lambeau!
Pittsburgh cannot make the playoffs, they have already been eliminated.

Not quite. If Pittsburgh, Miami and Baltimore all finish at 8-8, Pittsburgh wins the overall tiebreaker (I believe).

No offense to anyone, but I could care less if the Steelers make the playoffs or not. Its whether the Packers can win out the rest of the season that concerns me.

Pretty sure none of us cares about Pitt's chances, but the point probably is that Pittsburgh might.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: ricky on December 17, 2013, 07:35:07 AM
Sure hope Rodgers gets cleared Wednesday to play. This is not the same Steelers team we thought we were going to face 4 weeks ago. They have improved but a return of Cobb and Rodgers would be too many weapons for them to handle.

BTW, I'm rooting for Chicago this weekend. If they beat Philly and we win out we're the #3. Meaning we'd play the loser of the Carolina vs. New Orleans game this weekend and not San Fran. Then San Fran would go to Seattle and we'd to go the winner of the South.

golfman, welcome back aboard! So, you no longer want Rodgers on the shelf, but on the field? Good for you. Personally, I'm rooting for the Packers this weekend- but that's just me. Because I really, really hate the Bears. Really.

Now, if Cobb also returns, who knows? Because- well, you know- never give up.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Hincha on December 17, 2013, 08:05:34 AM
Not quite. If Pittsburgh, Miami and Baltimore all finish at 8-8, Pittsburgh wins the overall tiebreaker (I believe).

NFL.com has them "In the hunt" yet....   I did not see how at first since Miami holds tiebreaker over Steelers.. but this must be how.

Ravens, Steelers, Dolphins and Jets all need to finish 8-8.... unsure about SD... maybe they have to finish 7-9, unsure of their tiebreaker with Steelers.

With 3 or more tied...  first is tiebreaker within Division for Wildcard...  Steelers would have edge over Ravens because of better divisional record.  The same with Jets over Dophins.  Steelers then hold edge over Jets since they beat them head to head.

Slim chances for Steelers, but in theory still have a chance.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Hincha on December 17, 2013, 08:12:02 AM
Pretty sure none of us cares about Pitt's chances, but the point probably is that Pittsburgh might.

+1

Since Steelers/Pack are late afternoon kickoff, they may have already been eliminated as Miami and NYJ play early games (they will need Miami loss and NYJ win).  Miami is at Buffalo, NYJ host Browns.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Hincha on December 17, 2013, 08:14:25 AM
The Schwartz is strong with the Lions.

This made me laugh....   great film.

After Cowboys win read a Tweet...  "Death, taxes and Tony Romo".... that also made me laugh.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: GBRoCk2 on December 17, 2013, 10:48:20 AM
Pretty sure none of us cares about Pitt's chances, but the point probably is that Pittsburgh might.

+1

Since Steelers/Pack are late afternoon kickoff, they may have already been eliminated as Miami and NYJ play early games (they will need Miami loss and NYJ win).  Miami is at Buffalo, NYJ host Browns.
Again, not that anyone cares, if Pitt finishes 8-8 (best case), Miami finishes 8-8 (worst case), Miami won the head to head and therefore takes the playoff spot. Right now, Pittsburgh only has their pride to play for, and you can bet they are going to bring it regardless.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Pugger on December 17, 2013, 11:01:47 AM
I will be there!  This game didn't look like it had meaning yesterday morning but now it's a full on fight for your playoff life for both squads.  It's going to be electric at Lambeau!
Pittsburgh cannot make the playoffs, they have already been eliminated.

Not quite. If Pittsburgh, Miami and Baltimore all finish at 8-8, Pittsburgh wins the overall tiebreaker (I believe).

No offense to anyone, but I could care less if the Steelers make the playoffs or not. Its whether the Packers can win out the rest of the season that concerns me. And as far as Lacy is concerned, he's turning out to be a real find. Kind of like Rodgers was back in '08, when Alex Smith went #1, and AR was repeatedly shown waiting for hours to be picked. He could turn out to be the second coming of Ahman Green- or, maybe, Jim Taylor. And that is the highest praise I can confer on a Packers RB.

Of course it would be nice if Pitt didn't have an incentive for this game...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Pugger on December 17, 2013, 11:02:57 AM
Sure hope Rodgers gets cleared Wednesday to play. This is not the same Steelers team we thought we were going to face 4 weeks ago. They have improved but a return of Cobb and Rodgers would be too many weapons for them to handle.

BTW, I'm rooting for Chicago this weekend. If they beat Philly and we win out we're the #3. Meaning we'd play the loser of the Carolina vs. New Orleans game this weekend and not San Fran. Then San Fran would go to Seattle and we'd to go the winner of the South.

But getting Cobb back (if Rodgers doesn't play) will help Flynn big time I would think.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Hincha on December 17, 2013, 01:48:48 PM
Again, not that anyone cares, if Pitt finishes 8-8 (best case), Miami finishes 8-8 (worst case), Miami won the head to head and therefore takes the playoff spot. Right now, Pittsburgh only has their pride to play for, and you can bet they are going to bring it regardless.

Maybe read my entire post before replying... Steelers still have possibility for playoff spot (however slight).

Steelers, Raven, Jets and Dolphins all finish 8-8.  Tiebreakers are at the division level FIRST (so Dolphins beating Steelers has no barring in first tiebreak).

In the first tiebreak Steelers would eliminate Ravens if both finish 8-8 and Jets would eliminate Dolphins.

Next tiebreaker would have Steelers vs Jets and Steelers beat them head to head.  Steelers are in.

Steelers still have a chance... but may not at the time of Packers game when kicks off if Jets lose or Dolphins win in the early games.

Thanks for reading the entire post.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Geoff on December 17, 2013, 02:04:29 PM
Steelers LB Lamar Woodley ruled out. That helps.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Geoff on December 17, 2013, 02:23:49 PM
Scott Brown ‏@ScottBrown_ESPN 2h
Tomlin said it was an "easy decision for me" to pick Le'Veon Bell over Eddie Lacy in last year's draft.

I know I said this before, but just showing the evidence.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Yuletide on December 17, 2013, 03:45:28 PM
Not exactly unbridled optimism from Rodgers today regarding his chances of being cleared to play against the steelers.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: LMG on December 17, 2013, 04:02:25 PM
Not exactly unbridled optimism from Rodgers today regarding his chances of being cleared to play against the steelers.

How's that?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: The GM on December 17, 2013, 04:17:49 PM
Not exactly unbridled optimism from Rodgers today regarding his chances of being cleared to play against the steelers.

Agree, my take on his comments were (Im paraphrasing),   I may not get cleared to play but it doesnt mean I wont battle them to play.

He said he trusts Dr McKenzie and considers him a friend.

Hard to say what will happen, but I hope the Packers keep this close to the vest as long as they can.



   
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: JacobCO on December 17, 2013, 04:54:12 PM
I think it's obvious from not getting cleared last week and his radio show today that the scans show the collarbone hasn't healed enough for the Dr. to clear him. The only way he plays is if he can convince them it's worth the risk.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 17, 2013, 05:16:44 PM

Outtakes from ESPN ::

AR:   ""I'd like to thank Justin Tucker off the top here for his performance last night," Rodgers said to open his ESPN Milwaukee radio show. "Unbelievable. That 61-yarder was amazing. I didn't quite get the three previous plays, but wow."

If the Packers beat the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday and the Chicago Bears in Week 17, they would win the NFC North.

"It's amazing that we're sitting here 7-6-1 with a chance to win two and be in [the playoffs]," Rodgers said.

What happened in Week 15, with the Packers pulling off their come-from-behind victory over the Dallas Cowboys and the Lions' loss, will not be a factor in whether Rodgers returns, he said.

"I don't think it really influences my thought process any more than playing last week and wanting to be out there last week did," Rodgers said. "I felt good in practice, and a decision was made about my status that was made collectively but more on an organizational level, which I understood.

"Doesn't mean I was happy about it, but understood."
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Yuletide on December 17, 2013, 06:47:45 PM
Not exactly unbridled optimism from Rodgers today regarding his chances of being cleared to play against the steelers.

Agree, my take on his comments were (Im paraphrasing),   I may not get cleared to play but it doesnt mean I wont battle them to play.

He said he trusts Dr McKenzie and considers him a friend.

Hard to say what will happen, but I hope the Packers keep this close to the vest as long as they can.

My take on what Rodgers said today:

Ultimately this decision is up to McCarthy with heavy emphasis on the recommendations of Dr Pat.

There is no chance the injury will be "100%" by Sunday, based on scans.

There is a good chance he'll be able to play football pain-free from the injury.

That "100% recovered" from injuries is an impossible standard that no player can meet at this point in the season.

That he hopes McCarthy and Dr Pat weigh risk/reward more heavily in their decision rather than being ultra-conservative regarding what the scans look like. That he doesn't even want to be scanned again this week.  That they sort of know what it'll look like by extrapolating the sequence of scans they've already seen.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: banman7320 on December 17, 2013, 07:05:22 PM
Agree with what you said Yuletide.  I don't expect them to make the final decision on his status until Friday, just like last week.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: cheech on December 17, 2013, 07:18:13 PM
November 3 Rodgers broke his collarbone.  Sunday will be 7 weeks.  It takes 10 weeks to heal. 

I can't imagine Rodgers playing the next two games. 

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: ricky on December 17, 2013, 07:30:37 PM
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=71&c=1191&f=2223233

Here's the link to "Tuesdays With Aaron". Listen and decide for yourself.

Meanwhile, lets hope that the Packers play sixty minutes Sunday, not thirty.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Yuletide on December 17, 2013, 07:52:49 PM
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=71&c=1191&f=2223233

Here's the link to "Tuesdays With Aaron". Listen and decide for yourself.

What's your interpretation, ricky?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: banman7320 on December 17, 2013, 07:56:39 PM
November 3 Rodgers broke his collarbone.  Sunday will be 7 weeks.  It takes 10 weeks to heal. 

I can't imagine Rodgers playing the next two games.

I don't think it's an exact science to know when it'll be completely healed.  The original prognosis reported at the time of the injury was 4-6 weeks.  Obviously it's taking longer than that but my point is you can't just say 10 weeks.

Disclaimer: I am no doctor
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Yuletide on December 17, 2013, 07:59:05 PM
Ask 10 doctors and they won't give you 10 identical answers. There is a clear judgement call aspect to all of this.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: JacobCO on December 17, 2013, 08:16:05 PM
If he plays at any point in the rest of the season or postseason he's at a higher risk of breaking it again, perhaps worse than he did against the Bears. There's no way it'll be 100% this year. I think the big question here is how likely is he to re-injure it? My biggest concern is the fact our OLine is pretty subpar but that's nothing new. However, I remember in 2010 when Rodgers came back from the 2nd concussion we had the same issue and it's like everyone on the OLine raised their game up a notch and made sure Rodgers didn't get hit much at all. Can this unit do that? I think McCarthy's confidence in that may play a huge part in the risk/reward conversation.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 18, 2013, 07:05:27 AM
Ask 10 doctors and they won't give you 10 identical answers. There is a clear judgement call aspect to all of this.

Completely correct.
To remove any "judgment call" aspects - AR sits till next season - but as you or someone else mentioned previously - there are a lot of players who's overall and specific health (regarding some body part) would benefit from sitting down.

Its not a callous or insensitive comment to make - that GB's best chance of winning - some might say only chance of winning - is for AR to join that pool of players playing with issues. I think thats a perfectly fair judgment. 

I hope he plays - but - if he's not cleared medically and is restricted from doing so - as many others are and have been throughout the season - I'm fine with that as well - and will hope we win somehow w/o him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: cpk1994 on December 18, 2013, 07:13:04 AM
Ask 10 doctors and they won't give you 10 identical answers. There is a clear judgement call aspect to all of this.
Exactly, which is why the media continues to note MacKenzie's ultra conservativeness. Add that to McCarthy's unwillingness to take a risk, and that is what Rodgers is in the mood he is in. McCarthy really needs to grow a set and play Rodgers this weekend. The "Dog and Pony" Show needs to stop.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 18, 2013, 07:24:20 AM
Ask 10 doctors and they won't give you 10 identical answers. There is a clear judgement call aspect to all of this.
Exactly, which is why the media continues to note MacKenzie's ultra conservativeness. Add that to McCarthy's unwillingness to take a risk, and that is what Rodgers is in the mood he is in. McCarthy really needs to grow a set and play Rodgers this weekend. The "Dog and Pony" Show needs to stop.


But - and I REALLY dont want to go thru it the entire "doctor & MM" angles again as I'm certain no new insights are available - the collarbone is a fragile bone. There's not much too it - and a QB is fairly well guaranteed to get hit, tossed and land oddly - or get tackled and land with someone on top of him - none of which can be protected against 100%.

Its not the same as playing with a tender hammy, a semi-twisted ankle or a knee supported by a brace (as RGIII had been trying to do and Mr. Flacco will probably need to do come Sunday). There's NOTHING that can be done to protect a collarbone - except sitting down. So within that context - I'm fine with the medical opinion taking precedence. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: ricky on December 18, 2013, 07:34:20 AM
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=71&c=1191&f=2223233

Here's the link to "Tuesdays With Aaron". Listen and decide for yourself.

What's your interpretation, ricky?

Thanks for asking. I think that last week, AR was thinking with his emotions, and cooler heads overruled him. He was initially upset, but after due consideration (and an outstanding win), he realized it was the best thing for him and the long term prospects for the team. This has given me an idea about a new thread dealing with Rodgers. Check it out.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Saucyjak on December 18, 2013, 09:10:39 AM
RODGERS MUST PLAY..........he is paid millions to do so. It is healed enough at 7 weeks. If McCarthy makes the decision....(which is what he did last week, NOT THE DOCTOR) McCarthy should be......fired?....no....but criticized heavily

This is a team capable of winning the super bowl.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: The GM on December 18, 2013, 09:38:31 AM
Ask 10 doctors and they won't give you 10 identical answers. There is a clear judgement call aspect to all of this.
Exactly, which is why the media continues to note MacKenzie's ultra conservativeness. Add that to McCarthy's unwillingness to take a risk, and that is what Rodgers is in the mood he is in. McCarthy really needs to grow a set and play Rodgers this weekend. The "Dog and Pony" Show needs to stop.

The bone is broke, and the doctor says it isnt ready.  Why is that so difficult to understand.  When the bone is ready, they will bring him in ASAP.  They want him in there just as bad as you do.  The bone wasnt ready last week.  Perhaps it will be this week, perhaps it wont.  The Packers "Dog and Pony show" consists of a scan (sometimes) and a weekly update to say if he's playing.  Thats hardly a dog and pony show. 

The Packers are handling this as they should, its the media and slobbering fans that are turning this into a circus.   Rodgers will have the risk/reward talk with McKenzie and McCarthy this week, but the biggest factor will be the bone and where its at in the process of healing.   
       
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: cpk1994 on December 18, 2013, 10:10:36 AM

The bone is broke, and the doctor says it isnt ready.  Why is that so difficult to understand.  When the bone is ready, they will bring him in ASAP.  They want him in there just as bad as you do.  The bone wasnt ready last week.  Perhaps it will be this week, perhaps it wont.  The Packers "Dog and Pony show" consists of a scan (sometimes) and a weekly update to say if he's playing.  Thats hardly a dog and pony show. 

The Packers are handling this as they should, its the media and slobbering fans that are turning this into a circus.   Rodgers will have the risk/reward talk with McKenzie and McCarthy this week, but the biggest factor will be the bone and where its at in the process of healing.   
     
What part of "that is one doctors opinion" don't you understand? Rodgers could very well have been ready last week and the only reason he wasn't cleared is because of the doctors stubborn conservativeness which is well known across the league.  Just because MacKeznie is of the opinion it isn't doesn't make it fact.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Yuletide on December 18, 2013, 10:23:23 AM
Rodgers was very clear, on his radio show, that from his perspective, the risk/benefit analysis should be rethunk. I.e, not only that there *is* a grey area, but that McCarthy doc Pat need to reconsider it.

You guys can beat the drum about this being a simple decision entirely in the court of doc Pat and entirely based on cut and dried medical rules from some "Should Players Play" textbook he read in med school, but that ain't how it actually is.  It's just simple and convenient to pretend that that's how it actually is.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 18, 2013, 11:30:17 AM
Rodgers was very clear, on his radio show, that from his perspective, the risk/benefit analysis should be rethunk. I.e, not only that there *is* a grey area, but that McCarthy doc Pat need to reconsider it.

You guys can beat the drum about this being a simple decision entirely in the court of doc Pat and entirely based on cut and dried medical rules from some "Should Players Play" textbook he read in med school, but that ain't how it actually is.  It's just simple and convenient to pretend that that's how it actually is.

There's no drum to beat - or as with another thread - a case to be made. We would ALL like AR to play.
Some are more willing for him to play than others. Fine. Difference noted, accepted and not a problem whatsoever.
Given the injury and inability to protect it (like other injuries) - I'm personally fine with the doctor making the call and it being less a "football" decision.

Again - I (and probably most others) think AR gives us the best chance at winning. 
Thats it. Plain and simple and having nothing to do with how much empathy I feel towards football players or how much guilt I'm associated with.

I'm fine with McKenzie having the final word.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: cpk1994 on December 18, 2013, 11:43:02 AM
Rodgers was very clear, on his radio show, that from his perspective, the risk/benefit analysis should be rethunk. I.e, not only that there *is* a grey area, but that McCarthy doc Pat need to reconsider it.

You guys can beat the drum about this being a simple decision entirely in the court of doc Pat and entirely based on cut and dried medical rules from some "Should Players Play" textbook he read in med school, but that ain't how it actually is.  It's just simple and convenient to pretend that that's how it actually is.

There's no drum to beat - or as with another thread - a case to be made. We would ALL like AR to play.
Some are more willing for him to play than others. Fine. Difference noted, accepted and not a problem whatsoever.
Given the injury and inability to protect it (like other injuries) - I'm personally fine with the doctor making the call and it being less a "football" decision.

Again - I (and probably most others) think AR gives us the best chance at winning. 
Thats it. Plain and simple and having nothing to do with how much empathy I feel towards football players or how much guilt I'm associated with.

I'm fine with McKenzie having the final word.

McCarthy has the final word. Period.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: The GM on December 18, 2013, 01:31:15 PM

The bone is broke, and the doctor says it isnt ready.  Why is that so difficult to understand.  When the bone is ready, they will bring him in ASAP.  They want him in there just as bad as you do.  The bone wasnt ready last week.  Perhaps it will be this week, perhaps it wont.  The Packers "Dog and Pony show" consists of a scan (sometimes) and a weekly update to say if he's playing.  Thats hardly a dog and pony show. 

The Packers are handling this as they should, its the media and slobbering fans that are turning this into a circus.   Rodgers will have the risk/reward talk with McKenzie and McCarthy this week, but the biggest factor will be the bone and where its at in the process of healing.   
     
What part of "that is one doctors opinion" don't you understand? Rodgers could very well have been ready last week and the only reason he wasn't cleared is because of the doctors stubborn conservativeness which is well known across the league.  Just because MacKeznie is of the opinion it isn't doesn't make it fact.

I'll trust Dr McKenzie's word on it, and so do the Packers.  You have no idea the condition of Rodgers collarbone, is it 40% healed, is it 50% healed, is it 90% healed.    You dont know, BUT MCKENZIE DOES.   His opinion is what the Packers trust, and so does Rodgers.     
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Yuletide on December 18, 2013, 02:36:41 PM
Actually Rodgers has his own opinion and he wants to play and hopes mm allows him to. He trusts dr pat but that doesn't mean he slavishly follows pat's opinions like many here do.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: iarwain on December 18, 2013, 03:12:12 PM
Hopefully if Rodgers does get to play rust won't be a significant factor. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: cpk1994 on December 18, 2013, 04:05:27 PM
Actually Rodgers has his own opinion and he wants to play and hopes mm allows him to. He trusts dr pat but that doesn't mean he slavishly follows pat's opinions like many here do.
Exactly. MacKenzie is not the all knowing God some here make him out to be.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: cpk1994 on December 18, 2013, 04:08:55 PM

The bone is broke, and the doctor says it isnt ready.  Why is that so difficult to understand.  When the bone is ready, they will bring him in ASAP.  They want him in there just as bad as you do.  The bone wasnt ready last week.  Perhaps it will be this week, perhaps it wont.  The Packers "Dog and Pony show" consists of a scan (sometimes) and a weekly update to say if he's playing.  Thats hardly a dog and pony show. 

The Packers are handling this as they should, its the media and slobbering fans that are turning this into a circus.   Rodgers will have the risk/reward talk with McKenzie and McCarthy this week, but the biggest factor will be the bone and where its at in the process of healing.   
     
What part of "that is one doctors opinion" don't you understand? Rodgers could very well have been ready last week and the only reason he wasn't cleared is because of the doctors stubborn conservativeness which is well known across the league.  Just because MacKeznie is of the opinion it isn't doesn't make it fact.

I'll trust Dr McKenzie's word on it, and so do the Packers.  You have no idea the condition of Rodgers collarbone, is it 40% healed, is it 50% healed, is it 90% healed.    You dont know, BUT MCKENZIE DOES.   His opinion is what the Packers trust, and so does Rodgers.     
You have no idea if Rodgers trusts it. You have no idea how healed his collarbone is either. It could be more than healthy enough and its just MacKenzie's stubborness getting in the way. And MacKenzie doesn't compeltely know either. There is a point where a scan will no longer be able to tell how healed it is and it sure isn't at 100%. MacKenzie has an MO that is known all around the league as utlra conservative so it's naive to trust him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: LMG on December 18, 2013, 04:10:41 PM
Actually Rodgers has his own opinion and he wants to play and hopes mm allows him to. He trusts dr pat but that doesn't mean he slavishly follows pat's opinions like many here do.
Exactly. MacKenzie is not the all knowing God some here make him out to be.

Geez the agenda continues!!!

McKenzie is a Doctor and not some fan who thinks he is. He runs the Medical Staff of the Packers  so deal with it.

My goodness people.  banghead deadhorse)

Lets move on from this back and forth over and over and over.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Mazrimiv on December 18, 2013, 05:01:38 PM
Isn't there an active thread dedicated to the question of whether Rodgers should be playing?  I think the opinions of most posters on this subject have been noted.

As for PIT, I'm looking forward to getting an up close look at Lacy vs Bell.  Most GB fans seem to take it as a given that PIT regrets their choice, but I think they would likely do the same thing if they had it to do over again.  Bell also looks like a very good RB.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: The GM on December 18, 2013, 05:03:43 PM

You have no idea if Rodgers trusts it.

He said so he trusts McKenzie on Tuesday, I guess we can just ignore that and go with you delusional view of the situation. 

You have no idea how healed his collarbone is either. It could be more than healthy enough and its just MacKenzie's stubborness getting in the way.

I dont, but I'll go with Dr McKenzie's view of it rather then somebody who hasnt seen it

And MacKenzie doesn't compeltely know either. There is a point where a scan will no longer be able to tell how healed it is and it sure isn't at 100%. MacKenzie has an MO that is known all around the league as utlra conservative so it's naive to trust him.

Rodgers will be back when McKenzie says he is cleared to play. Period 
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Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: R MaN on December 18, 2013, 05:31:40 PM
Rodgers was very clear, on his radio show, that from his perspective, the risk/benefit analysis should be rethunk. I.e, not only that there *is* a grey area, but that McCarthy doc Pat need to reconsider it.

You guys can beat the drum about this being a simple decision entirely in the court of doc Pat and entirely based on cut and dried medical rules from some "Should Players Play" textbook he read in med school, but that ain't how it actually is.  It's just simple and convenient to pretend that that's how it actually is.

There's no drum to beat - or as with another thread - a case to be made. We would ALL like AR to play.
Some are more willing for him to play than others. Fine. Difference noted, accepted and not a problem whatsoever.
Given the injury and inability to protect it (like other injuries) - I'm personally fine with the doctor making the call and it being less a "football" decision.

Again - I (and probably most others) think AR gives us the best chance at winning. 
Thats it. Plain and simple and having nothing to do with how much empathy I feel towards football players or how much guilt I'm associated with.

I'm fine with McKenzie having the final word.

McCarthy has the final word. Period.

Dr. McKenzie has the final word.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 18, 2013, 05:54:26 PM


The good folks inhabiting Lambeau need to go BEZERK and behave like SEA fans do at their home games. In other words - make and keep it LOUD!
I mean - just lose it and transfer that energy to the GB players.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: cpk1994 on December 18, 2013, 05:58:09 PM

Dr. McKenzie has the final word.
Wrong. McCarthy is the one who ultimately makes the decision. There isn't a single NFL rule that says players are not allowed to play with an injury if the doctor doesn't say OK. See Shanahan, Mike ad plenty of others.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: The GM on December 18, 2013, 06:02:55 PM

Dr. McKenzie has the final word.
Wrong. McCarthy is the one who ultimately makes the decision. There isn't a single NFL rule that says players are not allowed to play with an injury if the doctor doesn't say OK. See Shanahan, Mike ad plenty of others.

McCarthy has the final say, but its Dr McKenzie who puts in the recommendation that McCarthy isnt going to dispute.  If McKenzie says No, McCarthys answer is No.     
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Pugger on December 19, 2013, 10:19:24 AM
Pitt has a decent passing game - #11 - but they are #31 in rushing just ahead of Atlanta.  We are #7 in passing and #7 in rushing - that's pretty darn balanced I'd say.  Pitt is #8 in pass D and #19 in run D.  We are #22 against the pass and #25 against the run.  Hopefully Lacy can get some yards.  Yikes, what has happened to our run D.  Earlier this year we were much more stout.   :-\
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: GBRoCk2 on December 19, 2013, 11:44:14 AM
Pitt has a decent passing game - #11 - but they are #31 in rushing just ahead of Atlanta.  We are #7 in passing and #7 in rushing - that's pretty darn balanced I'd say.  Pitt is #8 in pass D and #19 in run D.  We are #22 against the pass and #25 against the run.  Hopefully Lacy can get some yards.  Yikes, what has happened to our run D.  Earlier this year we were much more stout.   :-\
I would like to see what the offensive/defensive ranks look like since the loss of Rodgers, I've tried looking for a website that allows you to filter out weeks, just curious.

Pitt has been a better running team with Bell back. I heard Green Bay might get pounded with snow Sunday, so we could see a lot of running.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: cornflakes on December 19, 2013, 01:42:58 PM
Anyone have any info on a supposed "significant" injury to Jollys shoulder?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/19/no-word-on-rodgers-but-jolly-has-significant-injury/
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Pugger on December 19, 2013, 04:13:28 PM
Pitt has a decent passing game - #11 - but they are #31 in rushing just ahead of Atlanta.  We are #7 in passing and #7 in rushing - that's pretty darn balanced I'd say.  Pitt is #8 in pass D and #19 in run D.  We are #22 against the pass and #25 against the run.  Hopefully Lacy can get some yards.  Yikes, what has happened to our run D.  Earlier this year we were much more stout.   :-\
I would like to see what the offensive/defensive ranks look like since the loss of Rodgers, I've tried looking for a website that allows you to filter out weeks, just curious.

Pitt has been a better running team with Bell back. I heard Green Bay might get pounded with snow Sunday, so we could see a lot of running.

Yes, that would be interesting indeed.  The numbers I posted was from the NFL web site under team stats.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Twain on December 19, 2013, 04:42:19 PM
It will be interesting to see what the game plans are if heavy snow.

McCarthy said a few years back that he felt snow favored a passing attack- the receivers know where they are going and the defensive backs can't get traction to adjust.  Likewise, hard to get traction in the run game.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Mazrimiv on December 19, 2013, 05:04:57 PM
Have to wonder how this affects Jolly's long term future in GB

Quote from: Wes Hodkiewicz @ PackersNews
Jolly was ruled out for Sunday's game and told Mike Vandermause he'd be having an MRI done today. According to National Football Post, which is co-owned by his agent Jack Bechta, it sounds like his season might end on injured reserve.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 19, 2013, 05:23:08 PM
Have to wonder how this affects Jolly's long term future in GB

Quote from: Wes Hodkiewicz @ PackersNews
Jolly was ruled out for Sunday's game and told Mike Vandermause he'd be having an MRI done today. According to National Football Post, which is co-owned by his agent Jack Bechta, it sounds like his season might end on injured reserve.

If it is serious it most certainly will affect the Packers decision. If it's a 4 or 5 week thing, then we resign him. This doens't bode well for our run defense that much is certain. Jolly has been the glue holding that together and when he's out we're s sieve.

No Rodgers, no chance this week. Pittsburgh is playing much better football than they were early in the year and Laveon Bell is running the ball very well for them.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Hincha on December 19, 2013, 06:42:05 PM
This doens't bode well for our run defense that much is certain. Jolly has been the glue holding that together and when he's out we're s sieve.

Run defense even with Jolly has been on hiatus for many weeks now.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: The GM on December 19, 2013, 07:46:00 PM
It will be interesting to see what the game plans are if heavy snow.

McCarthy said a few years back that he felt snow favored a passing attack- the receivers know where they are going and the defensive backs can't get traction to adjust.  Likewise, hard to get traction in the run game.

The Packers will run the ball with either QB.   If Rodgers plays, his throws will be structured with 3 step drops to keep the defenses from getting a shot at him.  The Packers will protect him with the offense they run, just his presence as a passing threat will force the safeties back to make lanes for Lacy .  Dont expect a big open offense with Rodgers in there.  Lots of very quick short stuff, dump offs, screens and throw aways with the primary focus on the run.  Maybe a very cautious shot or two off that bootleg he runs off to his right with nobody around him.  If he plays they're going to protect him with the plays they run.   
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: ricky on December 20, 2013, 09:02:20 AM
cpk1994, I highly respect your constancy during this time of Rodgers-less adversity. At times when I wavered, you never did. You were always steadfast in believing the Packers could win, and giving up was not an option. However, this is the Packers vs. Steelers thread. If we could stay on that topic, that would be great. Although I do agree that the issue of whether Rodgers would make a difference is very relevant, this subject of who has the final say, who said what when, and possible hidden agendas is simply not appropriate here. I'm suggesting that perhaps we can talk about the upcoming game on this thread, and discuss the Rodgers issue on another thread. Like the one I started about the playoffs. I really appreciate your passion and find your optimism a beacon of hope, but please. Enough.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 20, 2013, 09:31:24 AM

Weather.

http://www.intellicast.com/Local/Weather.aspx?location=USWI0288

Any take if weather conditions could or would favor one team over the other?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: davemobes32 on December 20, 2013, 11:25:15 AM
Doesn't look good...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10171386/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-again (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10171386/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-again)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Hincha on December 20, 2013, 12:50:46 PM
Just listened to Friday press conference with injury report... stated Rodgers was limited and "Out".  So got our answer.

"As an organization we are not ready for him to play"... "not medically cleared".

Flynn is the starter.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: GBRoCk2 on December 20, 2013, 12:55:16 PM
Just listened to Friday press conference with injury report... stated Rodgers was limited and "Out".  So got our answer.

"As an organization we are not ready for him to play"... "not medically cleared".

Flynn is the starter.
I am not very optimistic he will be able to come back vs. Chicago, but first things first, need to beat Pittsburgh.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 20, 2013, 01:05:13 PM
Any word on Cobb's status for Sunday?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: banman7320 on December 20, 2013, 01:12:46 PM
Any word on Cobb's status for Sunday?

He has yet to be activated from IR and wasn't even mentioned on the injury report so I don't think there's any chance of him playing this Sunday.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Hincha on December 20, 2013, 01:15:34 PM
Just listened to Friday press conference with injury report... stated Rodgers was limited and "Out".  So got our answer.

"As an organization we are not ready for him to play"... "not medically cleared".

Flynn is the starter.
I am not very optimistic he will be able to come back vs. Chicago, but first things first, need to beat Pittsburgh.

That may be...  my perception from press conference is that McCarthy wants him to play, but other decision makers feel otherwise and therefore he will not play.  He kept stating "As an organization..." and would not comment if he agreed individually on the decision.

Cannot say I am surprised by the decision....  the "organization" talk reminds me very much of "big business" when I worked as controller for some billion dollar companies back in States.  I would guess Rodgers big contract is a huge hurdle in the decision making process with all the "dead money" involved.  They are going to be more conservative with him than other players because of the investment.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 20, 2013, 01:34:18 PM


Okay. Bring on Matty Ice 2.0!
No - not the second version of Matty Ice/ATL.
The second half version of Matty Ice/GB!

:)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: cpk1994 on December 20, 2013, 01:35:03 PM
That may be...  my perception from press conference is that McCarthy wants him to play, but other decision makers feel otherwise and therefore he will not play.  He kept stating "As an organization..." and would not comment if he agreed individually on the decision.

Mike McCarthy has now proven to me that he is gutless.  Ted Thompson also needs to be shown the door.  He is hiding like a coward.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: davemobes32 on December 20, 2013, 01:52:01 PM
That may be...  my perception from press conference is that McCarthy wants him to play, but other decision makers feel otherwise and therefore he will not play.  He kept stating "As an organization..." and would not comment if he agreed individually on the decision.

Mike McCarthy has now proven to me that he is gutless.  Ted Thompson also needs to be shown the door.  He is hiding like a coward.
Dude. Have you seen the scans? Do you know the precise condition of Rodgers' bone? I know it sucks, and I wanted him to play too, but let's not pretend that this is an obvious, clear decision and that any deviation from your view is "gutless." Stuff ain't always black and white precise, broseph.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: cpk1994 on December 20, 2013, 02:01:03 PM

Dude. Have you seen the scans? Do you know the precise condition of Rodgers' bone? I know it sucks, and I wanted him to play too, but let's not pretend that this is an obvious, clear decision and that any deviation from your view is "gutless." Stuff ain't always black and white precise, broseph.
The scan cannot show a 100% completely healed bone. You only get to a point where it becomes a judgement call.

Read MM's quotes and then read between the lines. He absolutely does not agree with the call. The fact is, TT is the one calling the shots here. MM letting TT make decisions for him is what makes him gutless.  What makes this more pathetic is that TT is hiding in his office like a coward letting MM be the fall guy.  A completely gutless operation.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: davemobes32 on December 20, 2013, 02:04:58 PM

Dude. Have you seen the scans? Do you know the precise condition of Rodgers' bone? I know it sucks, and I wanted him to play too, but let's not pretend that this is an obvious, clear decision and that any deviation from your view is "gutless." Stuff ain't always black and white precise, broseph.
Read MM's quotes and then read between the lines. He absolutely does not agree with the call. The fact is, TT is the one calling the shots here. MM letting TT make decisions for him is what makes him gutless.  What makes this more pathetic is that TT is hiding in his office like a coward letting MM be the fall guy.  A completely gutless operation.
The projection here is amazing.

You could be 100% correct, or you could be stark naked pants on head wrong. (although if you have pants on your head, are you really naked?)
You have no idea what that bone scan looks like, so your "reading between the lines" is pure speculation. You shouldn't call someone out on being "gutless" if you aren't privy to the relevant facts.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: PackerJB on December 20, 2013, 02:06:40 PM

Dude. Have you seen the scans? Do you know the precise condition of Rodgers' bone? I know it sucks, and I wanted him to play too, but let's not pretend that this is an obvious, clear decision and that any deviation from your view is "gutless." Stuff ain't always black and white precise, broseph.
The scan cannot show a 100% completely healed bone. You only get to a point where it becomes a judgement call.

Read MM's quotes and then read between the lines. He absolutely does not agree with the call. The fact is, TT is the one calling the shots here. MM letting TT make decisions for him is what makes him gutless.  What makes this more pathetic is that TT is hiding in his office like a coward letting MM be the fall guy.  A completely gutless operation.
Completely agree with this. The fact that TT hasnt spoken to media, is a cowardly move. MM cant go anything else
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: cpk1994 on December 20, 2013, 02:10:13 PM
The projection here is amazing.

You could be 100% correct, or you could be stark naked pants on head wrong. (although if you have pants on your head, are you really naked?)
You have no idea what that bone scan looks like, so your "reading between the lines" is pure speculation. You shouldn't call someone out on being "gutless" if you aren't privy to the relevant facts.
Again, the scan will not be able to show you if the bone is 100% healed. It only gets you to a point of a judgement call. McCarthy feels Rodgers is ready, but has kowtowed to Ted, and to a lesser exdtent, the doctor. That is being gutless. McCarthy is the head coach. If he feels Rodgers is ready, Rodgers should play. Period. What TT is doing is becoming Dan Snyder/Jerry Jones like and that GB does not need.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 20, 2013, 04:19:31 PM
Rodgers out, so are Packers IMO. I don't know if Flynn can beat the Steelers. They are playing much better than their record.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 20, 2013, 04:42:23 PM
We can absolutely beat the Steelers at home with Flynn. They've been playing better of late, but their O-line is still garbage, their offensive skill group is mediocre at best, and their core defensive players are old and washed up. I'm not necessarily predicting a Packers win, but if the rest of our guys come to play, I am certain we can overcome the loss of Rodgers (again).
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 21, 2013, 08:33:23 AM
We can absolutely beat the Steelers at home with Flynn. They've been playing better of late, but their O-line is still garbage, their offensive skill group is mediocre at best, and their core defensive players are old and washed up. I'm not necessarily predicting a Packers win, but if the rest of our guys come to play, I am certain we can overcome the loss of Rodgers (again).

Not sure if you watched the Cincy game or not but the Steelers offensive line stoned a pretty darn good Bengals pass rush. They also gave Leveon Bell a lot of running lanes. Again, they were terrible early on, but have improved greatly.

Mediocre talent at skilled positions? Not sure on that one. Heath Miller is a quality TE. Bell is one tough SOB at running back and they have Brown, Cotchery and Sanders at WR which is a pretty decent trio.

I'll cede yuour point on defense as I agree with it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: claymaker on December 21, 2013, 09:09:08 AM
It will fall on the defense again. I feel they match up well at the skill positions: Shields- Brown, Williams- Cotchery, House/Hyde- Sanders/Miller. Only Brown warrants true attention and needs to taken out of the game early, Shields has shown he can do it all game.

I don't think they'll generate that much pressure against the GB line. Bakhtiari has really been solid all year, and everyone else looks to be healthy and playing well. The offense might actually have an easy time going up and down the field. Provided Flynn doesn't get into a funk early.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Pugger on December 21, 2013, 11:33:37 AM

Dude. Have you seen the scans? Do you know the precise condition of Rodgers' bone? I know it sucks, and I wanted him to play too, but let's not pretend that this is an obvious, clear decision and that any deviation from your view is "gutless." Stuff ain't always black and white precise, broseph.
The scan cannot show a 100% completely healed bone. You only get to a point where it becomes a judgement call.

Read MM's quotes and then read between the lines. He absolutely does not agree with the call. The fact is, TT is the one calling the shots here. MM letting TT make decisions for him is what makes him gutless.  What makes this more pathetic is that TT is hiding in his office like a coward letting MM be the fall guy.  A completely gutless operation.
Completely agree with this. The fact that TT hasnt spoken to media, is a cowardly move. MM cant go anything else

Honestly.  TT is probably on the road scouting players at the upcoming bowl games.  I doubt he is around 1265 that much during the season except on game day up in the owner's booth.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 21, 2013, 11:57:04 AM
It will fall on the defense again. I feel they match up well at the skill positions: Shields- Brown, Williams- Cotchery, House/Hyde- Sanders/Miller. Only Brown warrants true attention and needs to taken out of the game early, Shields has shown he can do it all game.

I don't think they'll generate that much pressure against the GB line. Bakhtiari has really been solid all year, and everyone else looks to be healthy and playing well. The offense might actually have an easy time going up and down the field. Provided Flynn doesn't get into a funk early.

Works for me....except for Mr. Bell. He's on my mind a bit as the Steelers have no problem whatsoever running the ball to death - it used to be their forte. He needs to be contained better than DeMarcus was.....

Looked back in time and although this is indicative or conslusive of nothing - the last time any of the current PIT RB's did anything against GB was back in '08, Bell's a rookie - so he doesn't count - but back in '08 Felix Jones picked up 76yrds and a TD while with DAL. I like Dwyer more than Jones anyway. Felix used to be able to pop a long one every now and then, but Dwyer can be a brute. If the conditions are bad a tandem of Bell and Dwyer would make for some hard hitting tackles.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Half Empty on December 21, 2013, 01:01:06 PM
Demarco, the RB, not Demarcus, the defender, right?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 21, 2013, 01:04:01 PM
Demarco, the RB, not Demarcus, the defender, right?

As I recall - the RB - whatever his name - was the problem.
The DE wasn't a factor.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: JPPlaya on December 21, 2013, 01:30:58 PM
I HOPE that Flynn continues to improve as he plays more.

I'm far from predicting a win in this one, but I think we have a solid chance.

I think this team knew the entire week that Rodgers wasn't going to play so the news that he is out isn't any kind of let down.

Defensively, the Steelers rank pretty high. 11th overall, 8th vs. the pass and 19th vs. the run. BUT.....look at their previous schedule (http://www.steelers.com/schedule-and-events/season-schedule.html). There arent too many high powered offenses in there and the ones that are more high powered (Pats, Lions, Bears) HAD SUCCESS. So I think their ranking isn't the most true indicator of where they are. They are 8th vs. the pass, but the only really good QBs that that they've played were Brady and Stafford and both had banner days vs. them.

Also their offense minus Brown lacks any game breakers. Bell is a nice back, but he is only averaging 3 yards/ carry and hasn't had a 100 yard day yet (I hope I'm not jinxing anything). Frankly on paper, they look a lot like the Atlanta offense that we faced a few weeks back, except Atlanta has a better TE.

With that said, Pittsburgh is better built to play in a foul weather game than we are and they are playing MUCH better football over the last 10 weeks than they did the first 4 weeks.

Here's to HOPING that were still in control next week!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: cpk1994 on December 21, 2013, 01:41:05 PM
I HOPE that Flynn continues to improve as he plays more.

I'm far from predicting a win in this one, but I think we have a solid chance.

I think this team knew the entire week that Rodgers wasn't going to play so the news that he is out isn't any kind of let down.

Defensively, the Steelers rank pretty high. 11th overall, 8th vs. the pass and 19th vs. the run. BUT.....look at their previous schedule (http://www.steelers.com/schedule-and-events/season-schedule.html). There arent too many high powered offenses in there and the ones that are more high powered (Pats, Lions, Bears) HAD SUCCESS. So I think their ranking isn't the most true indicator of where they are. They are 8th vs. the pass, but the only really good QBs that that they've played were Brady and Stafford and both had banner days vs. them.

Also their offense minus Brown lacks any game breakers. Bell is a nice back, but he is only averaging 3 yards/ carry and hasn't had a 100 yard day yet (I hope I'm not jinxing anything). Frankly on paper, they look a lot like the Atlanta offense that we faced a few weeks back, except Atlanta has a better TE.

With that said, Pittsburgh is better built to play in a foul weather game than we are and they are playing MUCH better football over the last 10 weeks than they did the first 4 weeks.

Here's to HOPING that were still in control next week!
They are done. TT made sure of it with his stubbornness.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: JPPlaya on December 21, 2013, 02:13:17 PM
I HOPE that Flynn continues to improve as he plays more.

I'm far from predicting a win in this one, but I think we have a solid chance.

I think this team knew the entire week that Rodgers wasn't going to play so the news that he is out isn't any kind of let down.

Defensively, the Steelers rank pretty high. 11th overall, 8th vs. the pass and 19th vs. the run. BUT.....look at their previous schedule (http://www.steelers.com/schedule-and-events/season-schedule.html). There arent too many high powered offenses in there and the ones that are more high powered (Pats, Lions, Bears) HAD SUCCESS. So I think their ranking isn't the most true indicator of where they are. They are 8th vs. the pass, but the only really good QBs that that they've played were Brady and Stafford and both had banner days vs. them.

Also their offense minus Brown lacks any game breakers. Bell is a nice back, but he is only averaging 3 yards/ carry and hasn't had a 100 yard day yet (I hope I'm not jinxing anything). Frankly on paper, they look a lot like the Atlanta offense that we faced a few weeks back, except Atlanta has a better TE.

With that said, Pittsburgh is better built to play in a foul weather game than we are and they are playing MUCH better football over the last 10 weeks than they did the first 4 weeks.

Here's to HOPING that were still in control next week!
They are done. TT made sure of it with his stubbornness.

We are all aware of the "organizational decision". It's frustrating for just about all of us, but it's the way it is. In fairness to TT, NONE of us know who and what the decision is comprised of.

We were MORE than "done" at halftime last week too.

So, you go ahead and think what you want, but I'm going to see how this week plays out :-).

No predictions, but there is still realistic hope. Prior to the Falcons game, if someone told you that Rodgers would not return, but within 2 weeks, would be in control of our playoff destiny, would you have believed them?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: LaSeeno on December 21, 2013, 03:02:44 PM
I would like to point out Green Bay is 1-0 with me in attendance so have no worries.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Hincha on December 21, 2013, 03:29:31 PM
I would like to point out Green Bay is 1-0 with me in attendance so have no worries.

Keep up the good work...   I assume you are going this week.  If you get to 2-0, I say we ride you all the way through the Super Bowl to bring home the Lombardi   ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Mazrimiv on December 21, 2013, 04:24:27 PM
Sounds like the weather could make things interesting vs PIT.  Get some snow like that PHI-DET game a couple weeks back, and there's no telling how the game will play out.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Bud on December 21, 2013, 04:42:26 PM
We can absolutely beat the Steelers at home with Flynn. They've been playing better of late, but their O-line is still garbage, their offensive skill group is mediocre at best, and their core defensive players are old and washed up. I'm not necessarily predicting a Packers win, but if the rest of our guys come to play, I am certain we can overcome the loss of Rodgers (again).

Not sure if you watched the Cincy game or not but the Steelers offensive line stoned a pretty darn good Bengals pass rush. They also gave Leveon Bell a lot of running lanes. Again, they were terrible early on, but have improved greatly.

Mediocre talent at skilled positions? Not sure on that one. Heath Miller is a quality TE. Bell is one tough SOB at running back and they have Brown, Cotchery and Sanders at WR which is a pretty decent trio.

I'll cede yuour point on defense as I agree with it.

golf, good points and I'll even throw in that their defense isn't as bad as everyone thinks. I'm not a stat guy so there may be other stats that refute my point but ESPN has Pitt ranked at 11th overall D compared to GB's 26th. By noo means is this a cakelwalk game. Throw in the possible wether implications and this game could get very interesting.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 21, 2013, 05:48:40 PM

Wish it were being televised nationally.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Hincha on December 21, 2013, 05:51:08 PM
Sounds like the weather could make things interesting vs PIT.  Get some snow like that PHI-DET game a couple weeks back, and there's no telling how the game will play out.

I always like a good snow game...  I went to one "snow game" in my life vs Buccaneers back in 80's...  big snowflakes hitting me in the face for good portion of the game.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 21, 2013, 05:59:30 PM

Okay - here's the crapshoot from hell - who stands a better chance of winning a snow game (?) and why!  :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 21, 2013, 06:06:42 PM
"It's kind of unique to play Dallas in Dallas in the building that you won the Super Bowl in, and then play the Steelers the following week," said Green Bay coach Mike McCarthy, a native of Greenfield. "It was different driving into Cowboys Stadium because it was the first time we'd been back there since winning the Super Bowl game. It felt good to drive back into the stadium, no doubt about it."


http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2013/12/21/steele-Steelers-Packers-in-first-meeting-since-Super-Bowl-XLV-Steelers-Packers-meet-again/stories/201312210068#ixzz2o9pRjPYn


"The Steelers (6-8) might be eliminated from playoff contention by the time they take the field if Miami wins at Buffalo or if Cleveland beats the Jets in the 1 p.m. games"


http://sportsblogs.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers-steelers-blog/2013/12/20/Steelers-healthy-for-Green-Bay-game/stories/201312200004

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: ricky on December 21, 2013, 06:10:11 PM
cpk1994, I am stunned. You're giving up? You?!? Amazing. Well, when you want to jump back on board, I'll be glad to give you a hand. But quite simply, this is a huge shock to me. Because, you know, never give up.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Half Empty on December 22, 2013, 07:02:02 AM
If the Bears win and the Pack loses today, is it time to give up?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 22, 2013, 07:04:34 AM
Today's the day Gents. Dare I say the playoffs begin today? Our division mates have lost and GB has won the requisite number of games to put fate back into our own hands.
We need to take it and run with it  :)


John Clayton / ESPN:

Fractured collarbone, fractured season? Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy spent the week preparing with Matt Flynn as his starting quarterback. Aaron Rodgers continues to wait for his fractured left collarbone to heal. Rodgers fractured that collarbone on Nov. 4 and history says it's an injury that takes time to heal. In 2010, Tony Romo of the Dallas Cowboys fractured his left collarbone and waited until the final couple weeks of the season before he finally had to go on the injured reserve list. Rodgers wants to return to the field but can't until Dr. Pat McKenzie clears him. With Rodgers starting, the Packers were 5-3 and averaged 29 points and 423 yards per game. Without him, they are 2-3-1, averaging 20.2 points and 362.8 yards a game. Last week, backup Matt Flynn led the Packers on an incredible, 23-point second-half comeback to beat the Cowboys, but can that magic continue? The Steelers are on the verge of elimination from the playoffs, but they are a dangerous next opponent.
 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: ricky on December 22, 2013, 08:20:14 AM
This has the makings of a really interesting game. Both good teams with flaws. Both fighting for their playoff hopes. Former Super Bowl opponents, where the game turned on CMIII stripping the ball at a crucial time. And the time has come again. Quarless is looking good; Nelson and Jones are still very good, Boykin will catch anything thrown near his zip code, and Lacy is proving to be a formidable weapon.

The defense is getting back into "bend but not break" mode. Plus, they seem to be getting back into the groove of making timely turnovers- interceptions in particular. This team hits its nadir when they tanked against the Lions- a game where I felt they just gave up. But since hitting the bottom, they've rebounded. Will the Packers fall behind again, and have to pull themselves out of another deep hole? Stay tuned. And meanwhile- never give up. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: whiterook87 on December 22, 2013, 08:21:24 AM
Today's the day Gents. Dare I say the playoffs begin today? Our division mates have lost and GB has won the requisite number of games to put fate back into our own hands.
We need to take it and run with it  :)


John Clayton / ESPN:

Fractured collarbone, fractured season? Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy spent the week preparing with Matt Flynn as his starting quarterback. Aaron Rodgers continues to wait for his fractured left collarbone to heal. Rodgers fractured that collarbone on Nov. 4 and history says it's an injury that takes time to heal. In 2010, Tony Romo of the Dallas Cowboys fractured his left collarbone and waited until the final couple weeks of the season before he finally had to go on the injured reserve list. Rodgers wants to return to the field but can't until Dr. Pat McKenzie clears him. With Rodgers starting, the Packers were 5-3 and averaged 29 points and 423 yards per game. Without him, they are 2-3-1, averaging 20.2 points and 362.8 yards a game. Last week, backup Matt Flynn led the Packers on an incredible, 23-point second-half comeback to beat the Cowboys, but can that magic continue? The Steelers are on the verge of elimination from the playoffs, but they are a dangerous next opponent.
.

Steelers are coming off a divisional win last Sunday night vs the Bengals, I think they are in for a let down this afternoon. Pack 23 - Steelers 17.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Mazrimiv on December 22, 2013, 08:43:20 AM
Today's the day Gents. Dare I say the playoffs begin today?

I would dare say that GB had been in playoff mode since the start of December.  It was generally understood after the Turkey day meltdown that one more loss would likely end GB's playoff hopes.  Even if they ran the table in December, GB would still need outside help.  The only thing that has changed since then is the outside help has been provided.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 22, 2013, 08:49:07 AM
Today's the day Gents. Dare I say the playoffs begin today?

I would dare say that GB had been in playoff mode since the start of December  It was generally understood after the Turkey day meltdown that one more loss would likely end GB's playoff hopes.  Even if they ran the table in December, GB would still need outside help.  The only thing that has changed since then is the outside help has been provided.


Agreed and correct.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Pugger on December 22, 2013, 08:56:10 AM
Today's the day Gents. Dare I say the playoffs begin today? Our division mates have lost and GB has won the requisite number of games to put fate back into our own hands.
We need to take it and run with it  :)


John Clayton / ESPN:

Fractured collarbone, fractured season? Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy spent the week preparing with Matt Flynn as his starting quarterback. Aaron Rodgers continues to wait for his fractured left collarbone to heal. Rodgers fractured that collarbone on Nov. 4 and history says it's an injury that takes time to heal. In 2010, Tony Romo of the Dallas Cowboys fractured his left collarbone and waited until the final couple weeks of the season before he finally had to go on the injured reserve list. Rodgers wants to return to the field but can't until Dr. Pat McKenzie clears him. With Rodgers starting, the Packers were 5-3 and averaged 29 points and 423 yards per game. Without him, they are 2-3-1, averaging 20.2 points and 362.8 yards a game. Last week, backup Matt Flynn led the Packers on an incredible, 23-point second-half comeback to beat the Cowboys, but can that magic continue? The Steelers are on the verge of elimination from the playoffs, but they are a dangerous next opponent.

We are not all gents.   ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 22, 2013, 08:57:30 AM
Today's the day Gents. Dare I say the playoffs begin today? Our division mates have lost and GB has won the requisite number of games to put fate back into our own hands.
We need to take it and run with it  :)


John Clayton / ESPN:

Fractured collarbone, fractured season? Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy spent the week preparing with Matt Flynn as his starting quarterback. Aaron Rodgers continues to wait for his fractured left collarbone to heal. Rodgers fractured that collarbone on Nov. 4 and history says it's an injury that takes time to heal. In 2010, Tony Romo of the Dallas Cowboys fractured his left collarbone and waited until the final couple weeks of the season before he finally had to go on the injured reserve list. Rodgers wants to return to the field but can't until Dr. Pat McKenzie clears him. With Rodgers starting, the Packers were 5-3 and averaged 29 points and 423 yards per game. Without him, they are 2-3-1, averaging 20.2 points and 362.8 yards a game. Last week, backup Matt Flynn led the Packers on an incredible, 23-point second-half comeback to beat the Cowboys, but can that magic continue? The Steelers are on the verge of elimination from the playoffs, but they are a dangerous next opponent.

We are not all gents.   ;)


Hmmmm.
It that a comment about gender or etiquette?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Pugger on December 22, 2013, 08:58:03 AM
This has the makings of a really interesting game. Both good teams with flaws. Both fighting for their playoff hopes. Former Super Bowl opponents, where the game turned on CMIII stripping the ball at a crucial time. And the time has come again. Quarless is looking good; Nelson and Jones are still very good, Boykin will catch anything thrown near his zip code, and Lacy is proving to be a formidable weapon.

The defense is getting back into "bend but not break" mode. Plus, they seem to be getting back into the groove of making timely turnovers- interceptions in particular. This team hits its nadir when they tanked against the Lions- a game where I felt they just gave up. But since hitting the bottom, they've rebounded. Will the Packers fall behind again, and have to pull themselves out of another deep hole? Stay tuned. And meanwhile- never give up.

The Steeler D might not be what it once was but it is better than Atlanta and Dallas so we really can't fall far behind and hope for another miraculous comeback.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 22, 2013, 08:58:33 AM


http://www.intellicast.com/Local/Weather.aspx?location=USWI0288
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Pugger on December 22, 2013, 08:59:43 AM
Today's the day Gents. Dare I say the playoffs begin today? Our division mates have lost and GB has won the requisite number of games to put fate back into our own hands.
We need to take it and run with it  :)


John Clayton / ESPN:

Fractured collarbone, fractured season? Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy spent the week preparing with Matt Flynn as his starting quarterback. Aaron Rodgers continues to wait for his fractured left collarbone to heal. Rodgers fractured that collarbone on Nov. 4 and history says it's an injury that takes time to heal. In 2010, Tony Romo of the Dallas Cowboys fractured his left collarbone and waited until the final couple weeks of the season before he finally had to go on the injured reserve list. Rodgers wants to return to the field but can't until Dr. Pat McKenzie clears him. With Rodgers starting, the Packers were 5-3 and averaged 29 points and 423 yards per game. Without him, they are 2-3-1, averaging 20.2 points and 362.8 yards a game. Last week, backup Matt Flynn led the Packers on an incredible, 23-point second-half comeback to beat the Cowboys, but can that magic continue? The Steelers are on the verge of elimination from the playoffs, but they are a dangerous next opponent.

We are not all gents.   ;)


Hmmmm.
It that a comment about gender or etiquette?

Gender.   ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 22, 2013, 09:01:44 AM
Today's the day Gents. Dare I say the playoffs begin today? Our division mates have lost and GB has won the requisite number of games to put fate back into our own hands.
We need to take it and run with it  :)


John Clayton / ESPN:

Fractured collarbone, fractured season? Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy spent the week preparing with Matt Flynn as his starting quarterback. Aaron Rodgers continues to wait for his fractured left collarbone to heal. Rodgers fractured that collarbone on Nov. 4 and history says it's an injury that takes time to heal. In 2010, Tony Romo of the Dallas Cowboys fractured his left collarbone and waited until the final couple weeks of the season before he finally had to go on the injured reserve list. Rodgers wants to return to the field but can't until Dr. Pat McKenzie clears him. With Rodgers starting, the Packers were 5-3 and averaged 29 points and 423 yards per game. Without him, they are 2-3-1, averaging 20.2 points and 362.8 yards a game. Last week, backup Matt Flynn led the Packers on an incredible, 23-point second-half comeback to beat the Cowboys, but can that magic continue? The Steelers are on the verge of elimination from the playoffs, but they are a dangerous next opponent.

We are not all gents.   ;)


Hmmmm.
It that a comment about gender or etiquette?

Gender.   ;D


Okay. Noted.   :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: JQ on December 22, 2013, 09:17:30 AM
Sounds like the Blizzard Bowl today. I'm thinking about Ryan Grant running wild against seattle in the playoffs a few years ago. The Packers spotted them a 14-0 lead at snowy Lambeau Field after Grant fumbled away two hand offs within the first five minutes of the game. But after that it was all Packers; Grant had 200 yards rushing and 3 touchdowns, Favre was "Good Favre," and the Packers rolled the 'hawks 42-20.

Perhaps Lacy and Starks can channel a little of that Ryan Grant today (except for the fumbling part), and plow through the snow to keep the Packers rolling. I think it will be a tough task against the steelers, because they're a foul weather and gritty team. I'm thinking ben may slip and fall while he's trying to scramble, or get hit by somebody like Mike Daniels and cough up the ball. The Packer defense needs to have some fun for them to pull this out, and Mason Crosby needs to continue his deadly kicking. Maybe even a nasty punt by Masthay that Bush runs down at the 3 yard line. The kicking game will be key.

I had the Packers losing this game in "predict the season," and it won't be easy, but maybe The Packers will get an early Christmas gift and stay in the running for the division. I see 'da bears getting beat today, so that would set up the Grand Finale next week!

GO PACKERS!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 09:32:00 AM
The weather outside is frightful. Going to be about ball security and footing. Big plays should be available because of footing.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Pugger on December 22, 2013, 09:32:44 AM
The REAL Blizzard Bowl was back in 1985 against the Bucs. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Bowl_%281985%29

https://www.google.com/search?q=packer+blizzard+bowl&client=firefox-a&hs=VYm&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&source=iu&imgil=oxpRehSoaPiPMM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcSQCHEIGNEh783vbi1Es6RtFlG8ryKIsP7GxLvUlrr9TRpcL5LcOQ%253B800%253B592%253BepUvf9aDf-j9gM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fpackerville.blogspot.com%25252F2010%25252F06%25252Fsnow-bowl-1985.html&sa=X&ei=6wS3Use-EsW4kQfTk4GYAw&ved=0CFIQ9QEwBg&biw=955&bih=595#facrc=_&imgrc=oxpRehSoaPiPMM%3A%3B27xEAU_Rg9FSvM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252F1.bp.blogspot.com%252F_Pk49mVrUKD0%252FTCAr0Vr1iEI%252FAAAAAAAACPU%252F3Ogu1WEe-ng%252Fs1600%252F1985-snow-bowl.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fboards.sportslogos.net%252Ftopic%252F93027-bad-weather-football-games%252Fpage-2%3B800%3B592

My hubby and I were at that game.  We had to walk over to a local bar because we couldn't get the car out of the garage!   That game was a blast and we were sitting in the endzone in the large photo in the second link.  Snow games are a blast so have fun everybody that's going today!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Hincha on December 22, 2013, 09:38:33 AM
The REAL Blizzard Bowl was back in 1985 against the Bucs. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Bowl_%281985%29

https://www.google.com/search?q=packer+blizzard+bowl&client=firefox-a&hs=VYm&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&source=iu&imgil=oxpRehSoaPiPMM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcSQCHEIGNEh783vbi1Es6RtFlG8ryKIsP7GxLvUlrr9TRpcL5LcOQ%253B800%253B592%253BepUvf9aDf-j9gM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fpackerville.blogspot.com%25252F2010%25252F06%25252Fsnow-bowl-1985.html&sa=X&ei=6wS3Use-EsW4kQfTk4GYAw&ved=0CFIQ9QEwBg&biw=955&bih=595#facrc=_&imgrc=oxpRehSoaPiPMM%3A%3B27xEAU_Rg9FSvM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252F1.bp.blogspot.com%252F_Pk49mVrUKD0%252FTCAr0Vr1iEI%252FAAAAAAAACPU%252F3Ogu1WEe-ng%252Fs1600%252F1985-snow-bowl.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fboards.sportslogos.net%252Ftopic%252F93027-bad-weather-football-games%252Fpage-2%3B800%3B592

My hubby and I were at that game.  We had to walk over to a local bar because we couldn't get the car out of the garage!   That game was a blast and we were sitting in the endzone in the large photo in the second link.  Snow games are a blast so have fun everybody that's going today!

I was at the game as well
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 22, 2013, 10:10:29 AM

Btw - Go Cowboys!  We want the Cowboys to keep the pressure on Philly and keep Philly's starters on the field....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Beagle on December 22, 2013, 10:21:47 AM

Lots of snow fall in Green Bay. I heard it will clear up by game time but shots from Green Bay look pretty "snowy" right now.  :)

Really looking forward to this game.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Yuletide on December 22, 2013, 10:29:51 AM
Pretty surprising that we're favored even with Flynn starting.  I guess I'd probably take the Steelers side of that bet if I had to put my money somewhere.  But I don't have to, so go Pack!  This'll be an exciting game.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: cpk1994 on December 22, 2013, 10:35:34 AM
cpk1994, I am stunned. You're giving up? You?!? Amazing. Well, when you want to jump back on board, I'll be glad to give you a hand. But quite simply, this is a huge shock to me. Because, you know, never give up.
Well, I was under the impression that management actually wanted Rodgers to return. Now that its obvious TT never wanted Rodgers to return this season, it's over. TT threw away a shot at the SB. I'm completely disgusted. I am now firmly in the "Fire TT" camp.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: davemobes32 on December 22, 2013, 10:36:23 AM

Btw - Go Cowboys!  We want the Cowboys to keep the pressure on Philly and keep Philly's starters on the field....
Then we actually want the Cowboys to lose. If they win, then the CHI @ PHI game means nothing to PHI and they will treat it like a pre-season game.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 22, 2013, 10:42:48 AM

Btw - Go Cowboys!  We want the Cowboys to keep the pressure on Philly and keep Philly's starters on the field....
Then we actually want the Cowboys to lose. If they win, then the CHI @ PHI game means nothing to PHI and they will treat it like a pre-season game.


Oh. Okay. Perhaps I overheard it wrong.
Basically - I want CHI to lose!
However that happens - GOOD!   :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 22, 2013, 10:58:11 AM


Btw - Go Cowboys!  We want the Cowboys to keep the pressure on Philly and keep Philly's starters on the field....
Then we actually want the Cowboys to lose. If they win, then the CHI @ PHI game means nothing to PHI and they will treat it like a pre-season game.

Wait.
How is it better if the Cowboys lose?
They're a game behind Philly. They lose - Philly has a two game lead going into their nighttime game against CHI.
The Boys win - Philly needs to win to maintain their one game lead - i.e. keep their starters on the field.
 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: davemobes32 on December 22, 2013, 11:07:12 AM


Btw - Go Cowboys!  We want the Cowboys to keep the pressure on Philly and keep Philly's starters on the field....
Then we actually want the Cowboys to lose. If they win, then the CHI @ PHI game means nothing to PHI and they will treat it like a pre-season game.

Wait.
How is it better if the Cowboys lose?
They're a game behind Philly. They lose - Philly has a two game lead going into their nighttime game against CHI.
The Boys win - Philly needs to win to maintain their one game lead - i.e. keep their starters on the field.
If the Boys lose, PHI can clinch with a win. If the Boys win, then no matter what happens in CHI @ PHI, the DAL/PHI game determines the NFC East.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 22, 2013, 11:24:03 AM


Btw - Go Cowboys!  We want the Cowboys to keep the pressure on Philly and keep Philly's starters on the field....
Then we actually want the Cowboys to lose. If they win, then the CHI @ PHI game means nothing to PHI and they will treat it like a pre-season game.

Wait.
How is it better if the Cowboys lose?
They're a game behind Philly. They lose - Philly has a two game lead going into their nighttime game against CHI.
The Boys win - Philly needs to win to maintain their one game lead - i.e. keep their starters on the field.
If the Boys lose, PHI can clinch with a win. If the Boys win, then no matter what happens in CHI @ PHI, the DAL/PHI game determines the NFC East.


Okay - again.
Just want CHI to lose.  :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: claymaker on December 22, 2013, 11:50:32 AM
Okay - again.
Just want CHI to lose.  :)

Green Bay still has to beat them even if they lose this week and Green Bay wins to make the playoffs. They'll end up a half game back if they lose to them in week 17.

9-7 beats 8-7-1. Ties aren't everything they're cracked up to be.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Leader on December 22, 2013, 11:53:23 AM
Okay - again.
Just want CHI to lose.  :)

Green Bay still has to beat them even if they lose this week and Green Bay wins to make the playoffs. They'll end up a half game back if they lose to them in week 17.

9-7 beats 8-7-1. Ties aren't everything they're cracked up to be.

TruDat. NoDoubt.
The Pack need to win out - no change there - except now its time to start closing some things out.
The future is ours - if we take it. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Mazrimiv on December 22, 2013, 11:58:03 AM
To a certain extent I'm not even interested in seeing GB make the playoffs unless they win out.  Even with Flynn at QB, if GB loses to PIT or CHI, that will tell me all I need to know about whether this team would go anywhere in the playoffs.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: claymaker on December 22, 2013, 12:13:32 PM
To a certain extent I'm not even interested in seeing GB make the playoffs unless they win out.

That's the only way they can get in? LOLWUT?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Hincha on December 22, 2013, 12:26:35 PM
To a certain extent I'm not even interested in seeing GB make the playoffs unless they win out.

That's the only way they can get in? LOLWUT?

No it is not... if Lions and Bears both lose this week (or Lions lose next week), Packers could lose this week as well and still win next week and make playoffs.  Going 1-1 is not winning out.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Mazrimiv on December 22, 2013, 12:37:21 PM
To a certain extent I'm not even interested in seeing GB make the playoffs unless they win out.

That's the only way they can get in? LOLWUT?

and here I thought GB fans were generally on top of things
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: cpk1994 on December 22, 2013, 12:44:32 PM
To a certain extent I'm not even interested in seeing GB make the playoffs unless they win out.

That's the only way they can get in? LOLWUT?

No it is not... if Lions and Bears both lose this week (or Lions lose next week), Packers could lose this week as well and still win next week and make playoffs.  Going 1-1 is not winning out.
Correct, and to illustrate your point what you say yields:

Packers 8-7-1
Bears 8-8
Lions 8-8
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: claymaker on December 22, 2013, 12:58:28 PM
and here I thought GB fans were generally on top of things

I thought everyone was in agreement they need to win out to make the playoffs? Playoff pictures and if this, if that happens kills me. Green Bay has gotten the help they need to make the playoffs. Now is not the time to even think about losing a game and giving the favor back. Green Bay needs to win out it's really that simple.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: morango on December 22, 2013, 01:34:47 PM
I am now firmly in the "Fire TT" camp.

I am now firmly in the "fire cpk" camp.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Mazrimiv on December 22, 2013, 01:58:48 PM
To a certain extent I'm not even interested in seeing GB make the playoffs unless they win out.

That's the only way they can get in? LOLWUT?

and here I thought GB fans were generally on top of things

I thought everyone was in agreement they need to win out to make the playoffs? Playoff pictures and if this, if that happens kills me. Green Bay has gotten the help they need to make the playoffs. Now is not the time to even think about losing a game and giving the favor back. Green Bay needs to win out it's really that simple.

The LOLWUT comment makes it pretty clear that you thought GB needed to win out to make the playoffs.  Nice attempt to cover though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: green machine on December 22, 2013, 02:12:58 PM
Inactives so far:

Aaron Rodgers   QB   Inactive   
Lane Taylor   G   Inactive   
JC Tretter   T   Inactive   
Jerel Worthy   DE   Inactive
LB Nate Palmer inactive
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 02:14:37 PM
Inactives so far:

Aaron Rodgers   QB   Inactive   
Lane Taylor   G   Inactive   
JC Tretter   T   Inactive   
Jerel Worthy   DE   Inactive

Need 1 more on the list.

Nate Palmer.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Half Empty on December 22, 2013, 02:16:45 PM
http://www.packersnews.com/article/20131222/PKR0101/131222003/Only-five-inactive-today-Packers (http://www.packersnews.com/article/20131222/PKR0101/131222003/Only-five-inactive-today-Packers)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 02:19:16 PM
Jarvis Jones is a surprise inactive for the Steelers after coming down with an illness last night. Chris Carter likely to start in his place.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: scoremore on December 22, 2013, 02:20:00 PM
Think there is a pretty good chance both the Lions and Bears lose this week...

Just sayin'

Wouldn't count on it if I were the Packers though...

It's all going come down to the Bears next week...

Way I see it...



Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: bbayley on December 22, 2013, 02:26:40 PM
So stoked for the game today, lets go Packers!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 02:31:24 PM
http://www.packersnews.com/article/20131222/PKR0101/131222003/Only-five-inactive-today-Packers (http://www.packersnews.com/article/20131222/PKR0101/131222003/Only-five-inactive-today-Packers)

Disappointed that Worthy isn't getting a go, but CJ Wilson is active so he's apparently healthy again. It says Daniel will start, but Boyd or Wilson will be with Pickett and Raji on running downs.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: davemobes32 on December 22, 2013, 02:49:16 PM
Stupid WAS about to blow it. Would have been a help if the Cowboys lost...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 03:22:09 PM
Stupid WAS about to blow it. Would have been a help if the Cowboys lost...

The Dolphins also could have helped us by eliminating the Steelers, but instead took a massive dump.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 03:27:12 PM
Anyone have a link to the game online?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: green machine on December 22, 2013, 03:29:08 PM

barclay whiffed on that sack
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 03:36:02 PM
Steelers penalties really killed that drive.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 03:42:01 PM
Unbelievable play by Jones!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 03:44:10 PM
Is everybody at the game or something...?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 03:45:36 PM
Is everybody at the game or something...?

Not able to watch anybody know where to watch online?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 03:47:48 PM
3rd and 1 run two times.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 03:48:19 PM
I found a link on vipbox.tv

Great TD catch by Boykin!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Zyvlyn on December 22, 2013, 03:48:31 PM
Is everybody at the game or something...?

I'm here, but I'm at work, so I can't watch the game.  I'm following the nfl.com drive teacker, so I can't provide much comment.  That's what I watch the gameday threads for.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Yuletide on December 22, 2013, 03:49:13 PM
Boykiin is a good NFL receiver. Which is saying something.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: JQ on December 22, 2013, 03:51:31 PM
That was a MIGHTY IMPRESSIVE DRIVE by the Packers! Starks, Lacy, Boykin, and Flynn! I'm not watching the game on tv either, using ESPN "gamecast." It's pretty cheesy though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: EXIT_HERE on December 22, 2013, 03:55:37 PM
defense gonna give that lead up real quick here.... Geez
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 03:57:02 PM
Run defense is still struggling.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Zyvlyn on December 22, 2013, 03:57:45 PM
Getting gashed on the ground.  I suspect Jolly's absence has a lot to do with that.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 03:58:26 PM
Big problem when your secondary are making all the tackles on run plays. Calling the linebackers is anyone home?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: hitnhope on December 22, 2013, 03:58:48 PM
Typical of our defense this year.  Simply a terrible job of playing with the lead.  3 minutes to go length of the field.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 04:00:16 PM
Shields slipped. Gonna be tough to cover receivers in these conditions. Pass rush needs to step up.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: EXIT_HERE on December 22, 2013, 04:00:22 PM
Hawk missed the right hole twice that drive then couldn't get off his block...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: marklawrence on December 22, 2013, 04:01:11 PM
Try this:

http://www.vipboxus.co/american-football/194029/1/green-bay-packers-vs-pittsburgh-steelers-live-stream-online.html
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: AldenRoche on December 22, 2013, 04:01:40 PM
Getting gashed on the ground.  I suspect Jolly's absence has a lot to do with that.

Yeah Jolly's absence and the continued presence of Raji, Pickett, Hawk, Jones, Jennings and Burnett. Not a single run-stuffer in the group.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: EXIT_HERE on December 22, 2013, 04:03:16 PM
Why do we continually play Jennings at safety? He offers nothing atleast Richardson can play in the box
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 04:04:47 PM
Boykin just keeps getting better. I'm excited about him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 04:05:40 PM
Try this:

http://www.vipboxus.co/american-football/194029/1/green-bay-packers-vs-pittsburgh-steelers-live-stream-online.html

Thanks Mark, welome back.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 04:07:01 PM
Clutch conversion by Flynn-Nelson... but wiped out by a Sitton facemask.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: MagicMansMullet on December 22, 2013, 04:07:17 PM
I still do not see the purpose of playing MD Jennings, everyone and their mother knows he is bad.   I'm not saying Richardson is going to be good, just that MD is awful and will continue to be. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 04:08:37 PM
Special teams are anything but special for a past few years minimum.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: EXIT_HERE on December 22, 2013, 04:08:49 PM
I still do not see the purpose of playing MD Jennings, everyone and their mother knows he is bad.   I'm not saying Richardson is going to be good, just that MD is awful and will continue to be.

Beat ya too it a few posts ago lol
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: JQ on December 22, 2013, 04:08:52 PM
Clutch conversion by Flynn-Nelson... but wiped out by a Sitton facemask.

Sitton seems to get flagged ALOT!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 04:11:17 PM
Richardson is in on this drive.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: EXIT_HERE on December 22, 2013, 04:11:47 PM
Hyde and Richardson nice!!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 04:12:17 PM
And it's Richardson who makes a huge stop on third and short!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Zyvlyn on December 22, 2013, 04:12:39 PM
Stuffed a run on 3rd and 2.  And richardson was in on it.  That should make some people here happy.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 04:13:37 PM
Richardson and Hyde, nice play there.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 04:14:03 PM
Meanwhile the Giants go up 10-3.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: AldenRoche on December 22, 2013, 04:14:41 PM
I still do not see the purpose of playing MD Jennings, everyone and their mother knows he is bad.   I'm not saying Richardson is going to be good, just that MD is awful and will continue to be.

Many have been saying for a long time that Jennings (and McMillian for that matter) lacked talent to start at Safety. TT and Dom obviously see something in Jennings (and saw something in McMillian) we are just not smart enough to discern.

PS nice play Richardson.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Zyvlyn on December 22, 2013, 04:14:49 PM
Not that it is the most pressing issue now, but it should be noted that detroit is currently losing.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 04:14:56 PM
My only complaint with Hyde as PR is that he fair catches a lot of balls inside the 10.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 04:16:30 PM
James Jones is a bad man. I will be really sad if we lose him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: green machine on December 22, 2013, 04:18:04 PM
What was  Newhouse even doing on the field?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: EXIT_HERE on December 22, 2013, 04:18:15 PM
Drives getting killed by penalties...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: AldenRoche on December 22, 2013, 04:18:36 PM
Wow. Many of us unknowing fans have also questioned the talent of last year's starting LT Marshall Newhouse. TT and MM obviously see Marshall's talent that the rest of us cannot.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 04:18:44 PM
What was  Newhouse even doing on the field?

Extra blocker on a running play. Everyone take a deep breath!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: AldenRoche on December 22, 2013, 04:20:15 PM
Kuhn, Newhouse, and Jennings -- what a collection of talent.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 04:22:13 PM
What was  Newhouse even doing on the field?

Extra blocker on a running play. Everyone take a deep breath!

Extra as in dead weight. His best game this year was the one he was inactive.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 04:24:29 PM
Another nice play by Richardson.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 04:24:58 PM
Lattimore getting defensive snaps. I like that.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 04:25:55 PM
Matthews is hurt.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 04:27:16 PM
Don't expect Matthews back. I'll bet he re-broke it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: IBleedGreenGold on December 22, 2013, 04:28:13 PM
CMIII had his hand/thumb hit by the OL when he was grabbing on the Big Ben. I wouldn't be surprised if it pushed his thumb back.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 04:28:34 PM
Hard to tell what's bothering him. Looked like maybe the thumb again. He's in a lot of pain.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Zyvlyn on December 22, 2013, 04:33:31 PM
I know it's been said a lot, but it bears repeating.  Eddie Lacy is a great addition to this offense.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 04:34:26 PM
I know it's been said a lot, but it bears repeating.  Eddie Lacy is a great addition to this offense.

Can't be said enough. He's so much fun to watch and seems like a great kid to boot.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 04:34:52 PM
I know it's been said a lot, but it bears repeating.  Eddie Lacy is a great addition to this offense.

He's been OK, but he's no Samkon Gado!  sarcasm
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: IBleedGreenGold on December 22, 2013, 04:38:11 PM
Eddie goes into "Packer" beast mode.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Dan on December 22, 2013, 04:38:16 PM
I know it's been said a lot, but it bears repeating.  Eddie Lacy is a great addition to this offense.

TD!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: AldenRoche on December 22, 2013, 04:39:23 PM
Lacy is so much fun to watch.

Flynn is our backup QB for next 5 years.

Some good things have come out of all of this turmoil.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: IBleedGreenGold on December 22, 2013, 04:40:13 PM
Newsflash.........special teams still suck!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 04:40:25 PM
Kick coverage today really sucks.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 04:40:34 PM
Special teams AGAIN! Come on guys!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 04:45:45 PM
How about a blocked field goal to make up for the poor coverage.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Zyvlyn on December 22, 2013, 04:58:55 PM
Overall not a terrible first half.  The offense is looking competent.  If we can just get some run defense and keep the  special teams from crapping the bed, I'd feel pretty good about our chances.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 05:05:11 PM
Big guys up front with two nice plays in a row.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: IBleedGreenGold on December 22, 2013, 05:06:06 PM
The fake took forever to develop and it was still wide open. Wow.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 05:06:25 PM
Ugh. Fake. That sucks.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: green machine on December 22, 2013, 05:07:32 PM
How did they not see the fake coming?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:07:42 PM
Put Slocum out of my misery and fire him would you.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: EXIT_HERE on December 22, 2013, 05:08:43 PM
Defense and special teams letdown once again... This is new and exciting
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 05:09:47 PM
How did they not see the fake coming?

Pre-snap movement clearly gave it away. It might be that they did see it and had the short stuff covered but didn't account for the tight end running the deep crossing route. It was a nice throw by McBriar.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: hitnhope on December 22, 2013, 05:10:02 PM
Question still remains.  What is worse- defense or special teams?

Unbelievable that they continue to have the failure rate we see.

That was the longest developing fake I have seen.  Followed by a QB scramble that took about 10 seconds to go 15 yards, and still we had nobody get to the football. 

I know there is bad weather, but they looked unbelievably slow.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Zyvlyn on December 22, 2013, 05:10:07 PM
Overall not a terrible first half.  The offense is looking competent.  If we can just get some run defense and keep the  special teams from crapping the bed, I'd feel pretty good about our chances.

Well that didn't take long.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Saucyjak on December 22, 2013, 05:10:19 PM
Special Teams a complete disaster today.......OUTCOACHED again
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: AldenRoche on December 22, 2013, 05:11:08 PM
Remember it is not a lack of accountability on D and STs it is TT/MM showing exemplary loyalty and patience that has led to so much success out of these 2 units.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 05:12:37 PM
And the hater parade emerges in full force as soon as we fall behind. You guys are something else.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 05:15:50 PM
Heads would have exploded if that play hadn't worked out so well...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: hitnhope on December 22, 2013, 05:17:05 PM
And the hater parade emerges in full force as soon as we fall behind. You guys are something else.

Yeah-  The ST have been excellent, and commentary of their need for improvement would make someone a hater.

Ridiculous post.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:17:35 PM
Matthews - IR, Jones, what happened to him? What happened to Perry?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:18:51 PM
Flynn is doing a nice job managing this drive.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 05:19:20 PM
Boykin! This drive just refuses to end...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:21:39 PM
That might be a touchback when we get back. I think House was touching the endzone when he touched the ball at the end of the play.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 05:21:57 PM
And I spoke too soon. But another phenomenal punt by Masthay. Almost looked like House touched that ball while he was lying with his legs across the goal line... he really needs to know better.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Zyvlyn on December 22, 2013, 05:22:50 PM
One thing that's been very encouraging is the fact that Flynn has clearly been getting more comfortable with this offense.  Here's to hoping he stays in Green Bay long term.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 05:24:26 PM
That's a fumble! Hope the officials recognized the "clear recovery."
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:24:42 PM
We might win this one.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Yuletide on December 22, 2013, 05:24:45 PM
This'll be overturned. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: EXIT_HERE on December 22, 2013, 05:26:22 PM
Makes you wonder how none of the officials even saw the ball squirt out...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 05:28:16 PM
Shouldn't we have got the ball practically right on the goal line?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: EXIT_HERE on December 22, 2013, 05:28:47 PM
Shouldn't we have got the ball practically right on the goal line?


Yeah what the heck...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:28:58 PM
Makes you wonder how none of the officials even saw the ball squirt out...

Lot of humanity around the pile but may cost us 7.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 05:30:32 PM
Well that's just great.

Edit: so much for the sarcasm! What a break!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Zyvlyn on December 22, 2013, 05:30:56 PM
Makes you wonder how none of the officials even saw the ball squirt out...

Lot of humanity around the pile but may cost us 7.

Cost us 4, you mean.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: IBleedGreenGold on December 22, 2013, 05:31:21 PM
That was the Matt Flynn that has been let go a few times this year.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: hitnhope on December 22, 2013, 05:31:30 PM
What a special teams display. 

Pitiful series.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: AldenRoche on December 22, 2013, 05:32:03 PM
Did the guy who blocked that come right through Newhouse?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:32:19 PM
I don't know how the Packers get a first down out of that? That penalty makes no sense whatsoever.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 05:32:44 PM
Packers have caught some breaks in this game. Time to capitalize and tighten up.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Yuletide on December 22, 2013, 05:33:43 PM
sort of hope this is overturned for the steelers. That is bs.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Yuletide on December 22, 2013, 05:34:39 PM
that ain't possession. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Zyvlyn on December 22, 2013, 05:34:57 PM
That's a severe penalty.  I'd be furious if I was a steelers fan.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: IBleedGreenGold on December 22, 2013, 05:35:14 PM
What a break!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Yuletide on December 22, 2013, 05:35:28 PM
ok that is possession. Sorry. Weird that we have the ball though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 05:35:40 PM
Huuuuge break. I, for one, love it!

Touchdown!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:36:24 PM
sort of hope this is overturned for the steelers. That is bs.

Completely BS, but not like we haven't been screwed before, Fail Mary anyone?

Not to mention it should have been a TD anyway when Williams recovered the fumble and was in the endzone.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:38:00 PM
Did the guy who blocked that come right through Newhouse?

I'll say yes and I didn't see it. Why he's on the team still is beyond me.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: hitnhope on December 22, 2013, 05:39:01 PM
Did the guy who blocked that come right through Newhouse?

I'll say yes and I didn't see it. Why he's on the team still is beyond me.

And you would be correct, on both counts.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Zyvlyn on December 22, 2013, 05:39:14 PM
Now I have to hope that we win by more than 7.  It won't feel like an earned win otherwise.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:39:45 PM
Where is NICK PERRY?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:40:30 PM
Where is NICK PERRY?

He's in now
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 05:41:58 PM
Stupid, stupid play by Raji. Damn.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:42:14 PM
Raji you moron!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: EXIT_HERE on December 22, 2013, 05:44:43 PM
Get a lead then give it up...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: AldenRoche on December 22, 2013, 05:45:26 PM
Well that did not take long. And Richardson is still better than McMillian & Jennings LOL.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:45:34 PM
Get a lead then give it up...

That them in 3rd and long until Raji did that.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 05:46:24 PM
Well that did not take long. And Richardson is still better than McMillian & Jennings LOL.

To be fair, he did give up the TD.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: morango on December 22, 2013, 05:47:46 PM
The offensive players currently have a huge advantage on the slippery field

The defenders simply cannot react
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:47:57 PM
Nice run by Hyde.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 05:48:40 PM
That is awful and inexcusable. Wow. Flynn. Come on, man.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:48:49 PM
What the hell was that?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: green machine on December 22, 2013, 05:48:52 PM
stupid throw
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: morango on December 22, 2013, 05:48:57 PM
The offensive players currently have a huge advantage on the slippery field

The defenders simply cannot react

except for that play of course

 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: EXIT_HERE on December 22, 2013, 05:49:08 PM
Wow this team is brutal
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 05:49:17 PM
That is awful and inexcusable. Wow. Flynn. Come on, man.

+1  Terrible.   >:(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:50:08 PM
That might be your dagger on the season right there.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 05:50:21 PM
Is Rodgers out the rest of the year?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: IBleedGreenGold on December 22, 2013, 05:50:33 PM
Quarless ran into him as he was letting it go.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: morango on December 22, 2013, 05:50:45 PM
Folks that was not Flynns fault

The blocker ran right into him while he was throwing
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Saucyjak on December 22, 2013, 05:51:03 PM
Flynn didn't drop back far enough...........Flynn is still getting a feel......Heads should roll, somewhere on this team
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: AldenRoche on December 22, 2013, 05:51:21 PM
Well that did not take long. And Richardson is still better than McMillian & Jennings LOL.

To be fair, he did give up the TD.

The indisputable fact that Richardson gave up that TD is what makes it so funny that he is still better than Jennings and McMillian. Richardson may turn out to be a clown --the jury remains out on him, by we know Jennings and the dearly departed McMillian never were NFL-caliber players.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 05:53:34 PM
Uh oh.  Not Lacy.  Please!  :(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: morango on December 22, 2013, 05:53:49 PM
Well...

Quarless just had 3 sucky plays in a row
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: EXIT_HERE on December 22, 2013, 05:54:31 PM
Flynn is choking majorly
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:54:37 PM
This team is so brutally beat up it may be putting us out of our misery.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: MagicMansMullet on December 22, 2013, 05:55:08 PM
This is bad.....suddenly we are on the verge of getting blown out
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 05:55:59 PM
Well...

Quarless just had 3 sucky plays in a row

Yep.  He was so good last week.  Different defense, I guess.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 05:56:22 PM
Team is resilient, you must give them that.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 05:56:34 PM
Sick catch by Hawk. Pretty good for a guy who never makes plays.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: hitnhope on December 22, 2013, 05:56:48 PM
Flynn having a reversal of last week.  Good 1st half, brutal 2nd half.

Heck of a play by Hawk.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 05:57:04 PM
Thank you # 87!!!  Good job, AJ!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: MagicMansMullet on December 22, 2013, 05:57:22 PM
By far, the most athletic play I have EVER seen Hawk make.  Could there be some more magic left in the tank?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: AldenRoche on December 22, 2013, 05:58:59 PM
By far, the most athletic play I have EVER seen Hawk make.  Could there be some more magic left in the tank?

Where has that play been the past 8 years, I nearly keeled over when I saw it was #50.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 06:00:46 PM
That is a personal foul on 43.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 06:01:27 PM
Heady play by Jones.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Zyvlyn on December 22, 2013, 06:05:10 PM
It's a shame we couldn't punch it in, but we're still in this game.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 06:05:13 PM
Could have really used the TD.  I hate it when they have 3 shots at it up close and can't punch it in.  One score game though.  Still plenty of time.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Zyvlyn on December 22, 2013, 06:06:46 PM
Meanwhile, Russel Wilson is about to lose at home.  I know that will relieve a lot of guys around here.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 06:08:08 PM
Meanwhile, Russel Wilson is about to lose at home.  I know that will relieve a lot of guys around here.

He has been terrible today.  Hope he gets it out of his system.  I'd love to see the Hawks win it all.  Seattle could really use it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 06:08:38 PM
Big drive for the D. Nice plays by Mulumba and Hyde.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 06:09:40 PM
Big drive for the D. Nice plays by Mulumba and Hyde.

I'm liking Hyde more & more.  Kid is good.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: MagicMansMullet on December 22, 2013, 06:11:01 PM
Big drive for the D. Nice plays by Mulumba and Hyde.

I'm liking Hyde more & more.  Kid is good.

Hyde just looks comfortable out there, like he belongs in the NFL and he knows it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 06:13:07 PM
Starks has been such a good complement all season. I would like to keep him if it doesn't cost too much.

Nice completion to Nelson.  Hopefully that gets Flynn back on track.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 06:13:58 PM
Starks is running hard this year.  Maybe Eddy has inspired him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 06:15:26 PM
You can say a lot of things about this team negative, but they DO NOT QUIT, sans Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: morango on December 22, 2013, 06:15:53 PM
funny...

that quick handoff play to the upback Kuhn almost never works

except right there

nice call when it works
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 06:16:47 PM
funny...

that quick handoff play to the upback Kuhn almost never works

except right there

nice call when it works

They all are when they work, Morango!   ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 06:16:59 PM
Starks has been such a good complement all season. I would like to keep him if it doesn't cost too much.

Nice completion to Nelson.  Hopefully that gets Flynn back on track.

Don't forget about DuJuan Harris too. I'd like to keep Starks, but think someone will offer him too much money.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 06:17:36 PM
Lions and Giants heading to OT.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: MagicMansMullet on December 22, 2013, 06:17:40 PM
You can say a lot of things about this team negative, but they DO NOT QUIT, sans Thanksgiving.

Agreed, I would say Thanksgiving may have been an anomaly.  Everyone likes to rip on MM (myself included) but they are still playing hard for him and that says something.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 06:18:26 PM
Starks has been such a good complement all season. I would like to keep him if it doesn't cost too much.

Nice completion to Nelson.  Hopefully that gets Flynn back on track.

Don't forget about DuJuan Harris too. I'd like to keep Starks, but think someone will offer him too much money.

I'd be shocked given Starks' injury history.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 06:19:56 PM
Jennings back out there and gets embarrassed by Brown.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 06:20:09 PM
Typical lack of pass-rush.   :-\
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: francis on December 22, 2013, 06:21:46 PM
Jennings back out there and gets embarrassed by Brown.
Jennings has to go ans a SS has to be a priority in the offseason.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 06:21:57 PM
Huge tackle by Neal there. Awesome play.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 06:22:02 PM
Good job on the blitz by AJ.  Nice job!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 06:22:55 PM
What a play by Neal to stop him. I think they go for it and it's the play of the season.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 06:23:47 PM
Crap.   :(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 06:24:52 PM
Neal down.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 06:25:13 PM
Another injury to a linebacker. This is unreal.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 06:26:34 PM
Another injury to a linebacker. This is unreal.

Is Perry out?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Steve0492 on December 22, 2013, 06:26:53 PM
Who comes in for Neal?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 06:28:45 PM
Who comes in for Neal?

Perry and Mulumba were out there just now. Packers caught a break on third down.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 06:29:25 PM
Another injury to a linebacker. This is unreal.

Is Perry out?

Apparently Mulumba has beat him out because he's been getting the snaps.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: francis on December 22, 2013, 06:29:59 PM
COME ON FLYNN I WANT TO BELIEVE!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 06:31:00 PM
I hate that call.  It never seems to go anywhere. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 06:32:24 PM
Another injury to a linebacker. This is unreal.

Is Perry out?

Apparently Mulumba has beat him out because he's been getting the snaps.

Wow.  That would have to be a big time miss by TT for a 1st round pick, no?  I still think Perry would be great with his hand in the dirt in a 4-3.  JMO.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 06:32:36 PM
Need a first down here or we're going to give them great field position.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 06:33:44 PM
And there's your dagger....and the season.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 06:34:13 PM
Game, set match, season
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 06:34:37 PM
That's a fumble. Have to hope for a missed field goal now.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: EXIT_HERE on December 22, 2013, 06:34:43 PM
Flynn did not play good this 2nd half
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 06:35:20 PM
Did Datone Jones play at all this game? How about CJ Wilson who was active as well.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2013, 06:35:50 PM
See ya'll in the draft section.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Yuletide on December 22, 2013, 06:35:58 PM
game over, season over.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: AldenRoche on December 22, 2013, 06:36:11 PM
I didn't know Safeties were allowed to make plays that resulted in TOs - who'd a thunk.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: hitnhope on December 22, 2013, 06:36:46 PM
Really a dumb play.  Turnover in a tie game inside your 20 with less than 2:00 to play.

Unforgivable.

Still cant give up 30+ points when you are starting your backup QB.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 06:36:58 PM
Merry Christmas everyone. I want a new defensive coordinator and special teams coach for Christmas. I know I won't get a new HC so I won't ask. AND a healthy 2014 season.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Steve0492 on December 22, 2013, 06:37:53 PM
The Lions look like they're about to lose. Couple that with a Bears loss tonight and we are still in the hunt.

Not all is lost.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Saucyjak on December 22, 2013, 06:38:13 PM
we are still in this game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 06:38:40 PM
Need a stop here. Please.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Steve0492 on December 22, 2013, 06:40:46 PM
Lions are out.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Zyvlyn on December 22, 2013, 06:40:51 PM
Really a dumb play.  Turnover in a tie game inside your 20 with less than 2:00 to play.

Unforgivable.

Still cant give up 30+ points when you are starting your backup QB.

To be fair, the defense only gave up 24 of those points.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Saucyjak on December 22, 2013, 06:41:25 PM
Lets get this win.....................damn a penaly cost us this game...a offside encroachment
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: EXIT_HERE on December 22, 2013, 06:41:45 PM
Special teams is an freaking joke
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Steve0492 on December 22, 2013, 06:41:55 PM
Epitome of a bonehead play... cannot believe it.

And why the hell did we not let them score????
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Steve0492 on December 22, 2013, 06:42:20 PM
YOU HAVE TO LET THEM SCORE
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: morango on December 22, 2013, 06:42:20 PM
Wow an offsides on a field goal try for a first down

epic dumbness

game over
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 06:42:38 PM
Oh my goodness. That just about does it.

Probably should have let Bell score there.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Yuletide on December 22, 2013, 06:42:41 PM
Well coached there.  How about not trying to block a single field goal for the next 10 seasons.  We'll still be up compared to what just happened.  Idiots.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 06:42:46 PM
try again was that Nick Perry?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Saucyjak on December 22, 2013, 06:42:48 PM
Let them score....damnit
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Zyvlyn on December 22, 2013, 06:42:53 PM
Oh hey look.  There's nick perry.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Steve0492 on December 22, 2013, 06:43:39 PM
try again was that Nick Perry?

That would be the one...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: morango on December 22, 2013, 06:43:42 PM
Steelers are stupid. Why did they score there?

Two kneel downs and the game is essentially over..
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Saucyjak on December 22, 2013, 06:43:57 PM
Thank god he let them score....If not call for MM head
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Yuletide on December 22, 2013, 06:43:58 PM
Good.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 06:44:32 PM
Steelers are stupid. Why did they score there?

Two kneel downs and the game is essentially over..

Field goal in those conditions is not a given.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Steve0492 on December 22, 2013, 06:44:36 PM
In all likelihood we will have to become the world's biggest Eagles fans tonight
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: hitnhope on December 22, 2013, 06:44:41 PM
Really a dumb play.  Turnover in a tie game inside your 20 with less than 2:00 to play.

Unforgivable.

Still cant give up 30+ points when you are starting your backup QB.

To be fair, the defense only gave up 24 of those points.

Now 31.  And that isn't good enough when starting a backup.

Has it been so long since we have played decent defense that giving 24 in December sounds ok?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Saucyjak on December 22, 2013, 06:45:03 PM
Of course If I was pitt coach, I would of took a knee......let clock go down to 3 seconds......then kick for the win
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 06:46:28 PM
In all likelihood we will have to become the world's biggest Eagles fans tonight

Time to stick a fork in this season. Eagles really have nothing to play for tonight since it doesn't matter. They still have to beat the Cowboys next week.

Micah Hyde gives us a go.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Steve0492 on December 22, 2013, 06:46:33 PM
:D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: francis on December 22, 2013, 06:47:01 PM
It's not over til its over,
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 06:47:17 PM
This game is ridiculous. Let's go offense.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 06:49:10 PM
It's not over til its over,

Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Steve0492 on December 22, 2013, 06:49:59 PM
Let's go Eagles
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 06:50:57 PM
Painful penalty by Barclay, Perry!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Lodestar on December 22, 2013, 06:51:13 PM
Let's go Eagles

Yup.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Saucyjak on December 22, 2013, 06:51:23 PM
Oh my god Flynn is terrible.....wide open rec in end zone.....UNBELIEVABLE......porr coaching.......we should of spiked it and regrouped.....

MM is an idiot....always has been IN GAME coaching terrible
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Zyvlyn on December 22, 2013, 06:51:29 PM
Really a dumb play.  Turnover in a tie game inside your 20 with less than 2:00 to play.

Unforgivable.

Still cant give up 30+ points when you are starting your backup QB.

To be fair, the defense only gave up 24 of those points.

Now 31.  And that isn't good enough when starting a backup.

Has it been so long since we have played decent defense that giving 24 in December sounds ok?

24 points in a game is average in the NFL.  The month doesn't really matter.  And yes, with this defense, I'd take 24 points given in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: golfman on December 22, 2013, 06:51:45 PM
I think the Bears put it away tonight.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: IBleedGreenGold on December 22, 2013, 06:51:52 PM
Zero urgency those last couple plays. Would have saved them a couple seconds at least and allowed another play. Nelson was open right in front of Flynn and he missed him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Steve0492 on December 22, 2013, 06:51:57 PM
Let's go Eagles

Yup.

Perry's was much more of a bonehead play. I can empathize with Barclay at least.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: marklawrence on December 22, 2013, 06:53:02 PM
We're all done here. Someone start a thread: hating on Capers,McCarthy, Kuhn, and three more coaches to be named later.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Steelers vs. Packers Game Day Thread
Post by: Saucyjak on December 22, 2013, 06:53:04 PM
Philadelphia very well may rest players tonight. Because tonights game is meaningless to them